From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sun Jan 03 20:50:44 2010 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 03 Jan 2010 20:50:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NRetv-00007E-R4 for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sun, 03 Jan 2010 20:50:44 -0800 Received: from mail-iw0-f187.google.com ([209.85.223.187]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NRetq-0008W1-Oa for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sun, 03 Jan 2010 20:50:42 -0800 Received: by iwn17 with SMTP id 17so9971626iwn.25 for ; Sun, 03 Jan 2010 20:50:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=kWG7VpNd0DpJxU7NamyT+XuIlGd93FDHkNz0q8RQ7L4=; b=WUo4tN0ppk1IwjWpxjQP9TEXSmtkoTXLG5inwXKiAuIUZFk999+b3VfQW48YKoG8A9 4DZ366vGbfFVFeCkR5K+XWylg6x4sQw1ArRF/IL1Qwwje/vHVOmuqJ0wInrzQIUdI5Ik HnoMhcgegPtWclU/u0+EZctgYBsjKYhIHo1xs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=tOdIhUOAUBS7sKDGukTgZqwGiiTlRVwi+zzlRsQH4bMQxkv2zZnLRxTQTpGMQ3GCO1 T15rLbK3+IX9cFG0pT2GFqtZOtFPPAz83hVKD4EVokr/k/ad4xAGun1t6eyIX9dRmM1j S700yczO5S469yOAj8JhlF8agFcbCYggiLu2o= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.40.216 with SMTP id l24mr116454ibe.40.1262580632138; Sun, 03 Jan 2010 20:50:32 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <425e4ac21001031952t22834298oa24977c0eef72d35@mail.gmail.com> From: Stela Selckiku Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 23:50:12 -0500 Message-ID: <425e4ac21001032050h48991b70rdf63974aab3da6a9@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban] Re: Initial impression To: lojban-list@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-archive-position: 16780 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: selckiku@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 11:23 PM, Christopher Doty wrote: > > I do wonder about this as Lojban grows and expands, though.  I > wouldn't be surprised if people stop doing this to names eventually, > and just use people's names when talking... Well the compromise that's emerged is the experimental cmavo "la'oi", which is like "la" but can be followed by any foreign name (or at least any name without a pause in it). Some people have opposed "la'oi" as breaking some of Lojban's theoretical parsing qualities, which it surely does, but who knows if those particular qualities are important. I try not to use "la'oi" in any formal situations, myself, but I doubt this level of compromise can be resisted. I don't think we're likely to compromise any further than that, though-- you have to Lojbanize a name to use it with just "la". I think it's fun, getting a new name; it's part of Lojbanic culture, which is a fun culture! I especially support names that are Lojban words, I think it's a good teaching technique, you learn a lot of words that you wouldn't otherwise just because they're the names of people you meet. mi'e la stela selckiku mu'o To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.