From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sun Jan 03 22:07:04 2010 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 03 Jan 2010 22:07:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NRg5o-0004YL-Ca for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sun, 03 Jan 2010 22:07:04 -0800 Received: from web50407.mail.re2.yahoo.com ([206.190.38.72]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NRg5k-0004Vj-6l for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sun, 03 Jan 2010 22:07:03 -0800 Received: (qmail 94870 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Jan 2010 06:06:53 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1262585212; bh=PgPhGxJMmxNp4t1u/cgawrW86ADVsRqJVHPtJIyHZ4w=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=V0wPqo1N1leWMVUfwEjFKw9147FLdO46+AMovuSQVhiXSDGSmV3RcWxc1wXC7+IwzlyOXLy/LeRHVEIBT9xdGaOKZ2iTyYWUANZA1pNZj9VXMTHO7c3mYEBMq2hGFaKiGNrWVTyrYshKo+H6UD844K74r2fG6PS20oT+Wh94gDo= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=TPU2ExXUsPvzth6yzqD/rDLF334J4hZMHfP8IfYIT+P+RC1RoCZZiPVYKN0WSokDUHkBGOdS8FCSIZ80Ex8WtG5gm5ZC6qd3oVfzW+mbH3RLN+MmFGy4bRRX5QHOgcaNSS7k9LVa0rMNGT+p+AZzSt87Uumx2KE9A1IOQphYGgg=; Message-ID: <972918.93077.qm@web50407.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: wlbJIY0VM1n0eZ71Do1mxb9geOD1XSK0y_XlnmTEfRbBTpmJbi4ujhtv8823x5LeCN7jLaISG3051EFFF1h8BTHrO6LjIjmkoESN5VzViib3U00M37Z4t5TmAC6y1844MZkyMumABRmQPIYKXmUetgmyPCenCyy7Ggo7go1EHlV4RYRLGgZ41BjD0V52TqmR537YgKUbk008kiZUyDVqfXkpCGtTxT1ID2OVgyIWyobYzmG99k8LJgdDL49H0yBxE2XcXy8V2NLtJVNnidnrhS0- Received: from [173.196.20.139] by web50407.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 03 Jan 2010 22:06:52 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/240.3 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 References: <425e4ac21001031952t22834298oa24977c0eef72d35@mail.gmail.com> <175716.17467.qm@web50408.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <27513e551001032152p76aecf6fg281271b15e2959e6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 22:06:52 -0800 (PST) From: Lindar Greenwood Subject: [lojban] Re: Initial impression To: lojban-list@lojban.org In-Reply-To: <27513e551001032152p76aecf6fg281271b15e2959e6@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-archive-position: 16785 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lindarthebard@yahoo.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list >I'll join this naming tangent! > > >I chose the lojban name {ku'us} because ku'u is the rafsi for ckunu (conifer), and my legal american name Oren is Hebrew (אורן) for pine tree. .ui That's strange! *{ku'u} is a modal of {kulnu}, so perhaps this is not the best choice for a clear interpretation? Perhaps a better choice would just be *{la ckunu}. Either that, or you could be *{la selku'u} (Hi, my name is Pinecone!). Honestly, the *lojban thing* + s|n convention is getting stale, especially since there are names that end up "meaning" (it doesn't actually mean anything in Lojban, but we get the idea, like for bancus or kribacr) something when there was no intent. My name is one such thing that ends up 'meaning' something because it's incidentally two rafsi (Hi, my name is 66 feet.) smashed together. Honestly, I'd just assume that your name outside of Lojbanistan was something like "Kooce" or "Kuhuce" were I to see that name, whereas *{la ckunu} is rather Unambiguous™. >.i ta'onai > > >And I actually like the look of periods in front of attitudinals, because in my mind attitudinals are like punctuation marks. Well, except that by definition they don't punctuate so much as freely add attitude anywhere, but in a sense they do replace certain 'punctuation marks,' for example when chatting, '!?!?!?' can sometimes be replaced with .o'onai Second. To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.