From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sat Jan 09 10:10:40 2010 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 09 Jan 2010 10:10:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NTfln-0006yx-JZ for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sat, 09 Jan 2010 10:10:40 -0800 Received: from mail-pw0-f47.google.com ([209.85.160.47]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NTfld-0006uJ-8r for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 09 Jan 2010 10:10:33 -0800 Received: by pwj10 with SMTP id 10so741500pwj.26 for ; Sat, 09 Jan 2010 10:10:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=CKQb2LGjHxGx2Sm9cvHZAEiTPq9aL3nxf9Z7hxsmL6A=; b=DEk6i6sctHJEfPMKwRMADqnWGoqDEZc8NsxWmHHCHwi934R5vzKds5ve4HWh0YTohf SfEIoAMibDA8johA2T3H/qusyommk7VsFs8sNPsyjr5StwmI2oVL1V8vOhi7MU69glEC 5u0Xp1IfenkM5Xe6hZt0f2+UkT1eTueaJiYAk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=KCtSEPCzpofk9rm4bSKFF+EdDWvj/p/MSz1GG7NAKZjHOiWAanEopk8/FbewDTlI8p fuvd5qjR+u1Ty3AP228kGrLbi9WbNRct02VlItTY+9uokHKGen7LrtGFVUS57J+UD5s3 nTgF7lPtr/TUtH0eBNZNql3o7TCTUUFveqPBo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.143.26.39 with SMTP id d39mr3052966wfj.223.1263060623077; Sat, 09 Jan 2010 10:10:23 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <925d17561001091004r11edaeb4qce053e88054f03a2@mail.gmail.com> References: <5715b9301001082245k3a356463n1edda1811738f445@mail.gmail.com> <925d17561001091004r11edaeb4qce053e88054f03a2@mail.gmail.com> From: Frank Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 13:10:03 -0500 Message-ID: <40b71af31001091010h2db99966tfbc1c7f2ffe82314@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban] Re: the "t" in jetnu and a go'i question To: lojban-list@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636e0ae4dc4b2b8047cbf3722 X-archive-position: 16811 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: frankdmartinez@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list --001636e0ae4dc4b2b8047cbf3722 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable According to CLL, the [t] sound is "an unvoiced dental/alveolar stop". As with much else in the language, anything unspecified is precisely that: unspecified. So, I think it's okay unless I missed something. mi'e xuinkrbin. 2010/1/9 Jorge Llamb=EDas > On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 3:45 AM, Luke Bergen wrote= : > > First question: > > I was practicing my lojban the other day when I realized that sometimes= I > > pronounce the "t" as kind of a short stop in the vowel before. A good > word > > for describing this is "jetnu". > > Is this acceptable? http://www.filedropper.com/jetnu1_1 > > Sounds fine to me. > > > Or am I being a lazy english speaker and should really say it > > like: http://www.filedropper.com/jetnu2 > > I hear "jetsnu" for this one. > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.or= g > with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if > you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help. > > --001636e0ae4dc4b2b8047cbf3722 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Acco= rding to CLL, the [t] sound is "an unvoiced dental/alveolar stop". As with= much else in the language, anything unspecified is precisely that: unspeci= fied. So, I think it's okay unless I missed something.
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mi'= e xuinkrbin.

2010/1/9 Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllambias@gmail.= com>
On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 3:45 AM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
> First question:
> I was practicing my lojban the other day when I realized that sometime= s I
> pronounce the "t" as kind of a short stop in the vowel befor= e. =A0A good word
> for describing this is "jetnu".
> Is this acceptable? =A0http://www.filedropper.com/jetnu1_1

Sounds fine to me.

> Or am I being a lazy english speaker and should really say it
> like:=A0http://www.filedropper.com/jetnu2

I hear "jetsnu" for this one.

mu'o mi'e xorxes


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