From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Jan 12 12:32:23 2010 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 12 Jan 2010 12:32:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NUnPY-0005tV-IZ for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Tue, 12 Jan 2010 12:32:20 -0800 Received: from mail-qy0-f200.google.com ([209.85.221.200]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NUnPR-0005oT-UR for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 12 Jan 2010 12:32:17 -0800 Received: by qyk38 with SMTP id 38so2613442qyk.25 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 2010 12:32:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=U7RjJv1j89P1ECkxYAPG9yk4+H3cA0bDgYF9HbKly1w=; b=vgLddityGcvOEhM+3qUkFKH3q7Ne234quM6qiS1M+uSife2SojipDIKMpT7juGKuqr eGZu4DPwIgiZlyyCMTfsm8NYAet5VneDqeFPbeiPcCVtvRq8whi/PBqPWNEC8SuVUvgG NfbDkZT8NXJUIOaSD6HmFxx9iylDvpQYiWjwY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=JBOKNMRkyxd4U7UXtLXGqfrcH5B4CWsEU1TKCpy+Pjfz4SZqhIVCRay6CTMHLJQazY quDKjv5bMkX9dODQMqexDP02f+wj5C0/iXK/7jKt6aqXQS7EKAAHdFpw5NzLjWQMmXAC EVaVulNafsAQlTf7o3kN9RYaY4wPoYIzv4POM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.127.80 with SMTP id f16mr891678vcs.47.1263328327217; Tue, 12 Jan 2010 12:32:07 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 15:32:07 -0500 Message-ID: <5715b9301001121232t715e8e69n265381f070ded8ce@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban] shifting in tanru From: Luke Bergen To: lojban-list@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e68ee9472db337047cfd8c18 X-archive-position: 16822 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list --0016e68ee9472db337047cfd8c18 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I looked around in the CLL but couldn't find an answer. I remember at one point reading/hearing that in {da broda brode de di} the form is that {da} fills the x1 place of broda and {de} and {di} fill the x2 and x3 places respectively of {brode}. Am I right so far in this? My question is: is the rule here that anything to the left of the selbri tanru gets put into the x1/x2/etc... of the leftmost valsi and everything on the right goes into the xn/xn+1/etc... of the rightmost valsi? Or is it just that the x1 fills in the x1 of the leftmost valsi and everything else goes into the rightmost. Sorry, I am still confused about which is which in the seltau and tertau nomenclature so I'm using "left" and "right" instead and assuming that we'll just leave {co} out of this for now. mu'o mi'e pafcribe --0016e68ee9472db337047cfd8c18 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I looked around in the CLL but couldn't find an answer. =A0I remember a= t one point reading/hearing that in {da broda brode de di} the form is that= {da} fills the x1 place of broda and {de} and {di} fill the x2 and x3 plac= es respectively of {brode}. =A0Am I right so far in this?

My question is: is the rule here that anything to the left o= f the selbri tanru gets put into the x1/x2/etc... of the leftmost valsi and= everything on the right goes into the xn/xn+1/etc... of the rightmost vals= i? =A0Or is it just that the x1 fills in the x1 of the leftmost valsi and e= verything else goes into the rightmost.

Sorry, I am still confused about which is which in the = seltau and tertau nomenclature so I'm using "left" and "= right" instead and assuming that we'll just leave {co} out of this= for now.

mu'o mi'e pafcribe
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