From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Jan 21 14:22:25 2010 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 21 Jan 2010 14:22:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NY5Q0-0005Tx-5z for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Thu, 21 Jan 2010 14:22:24 -0800 Received: from mail-bw0-f212.google.com ([209.85.218.212]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NY5Pr-0005Mi-AN for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 21 Jan 2010 14:22:20 -0800 Received: by bwz4 with SMTP id 4so689416bwz.2 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 2010 14:22:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Xsuv8KS13jNzNNRlRkCyFyda3WAlocEesw2K1VYJzlQ=; b=R3GNK+mUjC2KKkcyopyIsRXsHYVRAx5wbzIeccbpQ7VvDdNpH//HIQIqZRSXqktf4m GVKvfr3HtwvAxaM2K0ZPPi/O6E3z7V9DVD3iLZhakkkwIjzRPSIDsvJFoVK/X63I8O7m 7xx1xNhHr332JLjIT3ODiKyoqsoBP28DXYOzE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=IvwILSfyW8UXMdYTjf3xQS1ftVZhvMEYv4BGP/Z+9nIHH+FdLL9vPiVEpz7dhne9/6 5I6zyklhWxnQFtmkmI9lTCOQqKbAiRGPblE3eRopHdS1W3Vsg0IUhSk2BIFQaXXgDu8H H8VQqpRaMQeQY639pFVsejWtFk9QZQb9IyvJI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.39.193 with SMTP id h1mr1128236bke.147.1264112528633; Thu, 21 Jan 2010 14:22:08 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <5715b9301001211330y36354477q3ae3e3049512152a@mail.gmail.com> References: <5715b9301001211330y36354477q3ae3e3049512152a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 19:22:08 -0300 Message-ID: <925d17561001211422h30febd27jbdbc5ad249532740@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban] Re: question about emphasis or something like it From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-list@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-archive-position: 16852 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 6:30 PM, Luke Bergen wrote: > How would lojban differentiate between "I'm surprised that you said 'that'" > (emphasis on 'that' as opposed to saying 'this') vs "I'm surprised that you > said 'that'" (emphasis on 'said' as opposed to 'wrote' or 'thought')? This is called "focus" in linguistics. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focus_(linguistics) In Lojban you can probably indicate focus with "ba'e", but you can also do it with "kau" after a non-question word, see: http://jbotcan.org/docs/cll/c11/s8.html Also, any attitudinal will generally tend to put some focus on what it marks. mu'o mi'e xorxes To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.