From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Jan 22 19:42:43 2010 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 22 Jan 2010 19:42:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NYWtV-00048n-AM for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Fri, 22 Jan 2010 19:42:43 -0800 Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.120]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NYWtM-00040m-AY for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 22 Jan 2010 19:42:37 -0800 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=tzzCjLrAF01Ehb3FK8YA:9 a=nTFkqNAcOiMNPOqYSDzvXtc1PkcA:4 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 71.71.198.100 Received: from [71.71.198.100] ([71.71.198.100:49217] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.39 r()) with ESMTP id 56/C0-02041-0207A5B4; Sat, 23 Jan 2010 03:42:24 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9359A3EF for ; Fri, 22 Jan 2010 22:42:23 -0500 (EST) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] camxes's reaction to some fu'ivla Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 22:42:19 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201001222242.21483.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-archive-position: 16855 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@phma.optus.nu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list I installed camxes (the compiled jar) and ran it on some words. I gave it all the months of the Roman calendar (ianvari, frebuari, martio, prilio, madjio, djunio, djulio, avgusto, septembero, oktobero, novmbero, decmbero; kuintili (=djulio), sektili (=avgusto), mercedonio (noi setca ke'a lo frebuari)), and it accepted them all. Vlatai rejects zo martio bi'o zo djulio. "soiombo" (a Mongolian symbol) and "peuence" (the Chilean people of the monkey-puzzle tree) it rejects. These would be valid if the rule were "The second consonant must be next to another consonant when y'y and ybu are ignored", but with the current rule, "There must be a consonant cluster in the first five letters, ignoring y'y and ybu", they're not. However, it considers "soiombo" to break into "so iombo". This I think is incorrect. A word beginning with a vowel must be preceded by a pause, else you can't tell "so iombo" from "soi ombo". Both programs accept "ricrpeuence". camxes rejects "aierne". Its attempt at a parse is simply "a" (".a .ierne" is not the start of anything grammatical, as "a" is expecting a sumti to follow), even though ".ai .erne" is grammatical. camxes accepts "amliau" and not "mliau"; jbofi'e accepts "mliau" as a word and splits "amliau" into a misparse. Whichever one is valid means "meow". Pierre -- When a barnacle settles down, its brain disintegrates. Já não percebe nada, já não percebe nada. To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.