From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Feb 23 02:42:30 2010 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 23 Feb 2010 02:42:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NjsDl-0002aJ-G1 for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Tue, 23 Feb 2010 02:42:30 -0800 Received: from mail-fx0-f222.google.com ([209.85.220.222]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NjsDK-0002Ge-KU for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 23 Feb 2010 02:42:12 -0800 Received: by fxm22 with SMTP id 22so3644450fxm.26 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 2010 02:41:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=CbqhPjF74o1DxB3D3yFrFIXNeDymYhcUw6uTQP+zbiU=; b=AuQ3RxpC7ibJh7NGv7d49idMnj5iAhOX5zmG7agGgNinmMsAF8Xi8Gpu9ZLoL8oA6k kYe6WhxEK9sbzgvI6V3NGkxCIdnrGS8vWRyV8GYxqiI1zjqlbzsUHtCAp/dSzYWh7Dfo wFLHmlBD4LDIolrEBN+Hm1xpI+T/9xZrIepaQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=sXar4cQmLIuJLFyDf1u7jqLWHtAIJCaj9Rf/ccN9p/UUg2rmxBJvq8dTyOXkdcxpJ9 QMtGfvfUmwbNxfIo744e0K+4nuON02xJXfxAunlbpuBJcp+Xis24yHavpXXDQW+mRrZt YAuyfjhQ3TlTqT53E87/mFtIKbrEzGC1BKKQA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.79.35 with SMTP id g35mr3482832mul.82.1266921712657; Tue, 23 Feb 2010 02:41:52 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <96f789a61002150742j10e63ba6w901ac3c84302d551@mail.gmail.com> References: <4B77F0FD.3080908@perpetuum-immobile.de> <201002141220.48195.phma@phma.optus.nu> <96f789a61002150742j10e63ba6w901ac3c84302d551@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 11:41:52 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: [lojban] Re: "which of you is the first to..."? From: Dag Odenhall To: lojban-list@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-archive-position: 17002 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: dag.odenhall@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list la florolf ji do pamoi lo'i jbopre Why are you all making it so complicated? On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Michael Turniansky wrote: > On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: >> On Sunday 14 February 2010 07:47:57 Timo Paulssen wrote: >>> coi rodo >>> >>> vensa on the irc just asked for the best way to ask "among florolf and you, >>> who was the first lojbanist?" and he came up with >>> >>>   ma poi me do ce la florolf ku'o cu du pamoi le jbopre >>> >>> and that's too long for my taste. >>> After considering a few different words to make it work (ji, zmadu/traji, >>> moi) i came up with the still rather flawed >>> >>>   xu la florolf do zmadu lo ni clira lojbo binxo >>> >>> because it only works with two people, which vensa immediately noticed. >>> >>> What would be a good way to express that? >> >> ma pamoi be do ce la florolf. be'o jbopre >> or even shorter >> ma jbopre co pamoi do ce la florolf. >> >> mu'omi'e .pier. >> -- > >  Could be all sorts of interesting ways: > > la florolf ji do pamoi le'i cilre be fi la lojban [lo detri]   seems > to me to be the most straightforward. > > For a real ridiculous one, try this: > ge'i la florolf ce'o do gi ra sece'o ri cu porsi lo prula'i be fi lo > nu cilre fi la lojban > > For a less ridiculous one, try: > ma cu porsi lo  prula'i be fi lo nu cilre fi la lojban la folrolf ce do >            --gejyspa > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org > with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if > you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help. > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.