From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Mar 02 15:45:19 2010 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 02 Mar 2010 15:45:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NmbmB-0007pb-M6 for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Tue, 02 Mar 2010 15:45:19 -0800 Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NmbmB-0007p6-7M for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 02 Mar 2010 15:45:19 -0800 Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 15:45:19 -0800 From: Robin Lee Powell To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Lindar is a big meanie head. :( (was Re: Lindar is very nice to volunteer! (was Re: Re: smart.fm and fooling text-to-speech)) Message-ID: <20100302234519.GM1159@digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <702226df1002220753g468a7a8fld8a8ee6741bd02a7@mail.gmail.com> <20100222160244.GS31805@digitalkingdom.org> <702226df1002250800xdc52e09g3e17856b5d67f30f@mail.gmail.com> <702226df1003010648r3b2376a1w93d7a792af638da4@mail.gmail.com> <33739.83087.qm@web50405.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20100302194118.GH1159@digitalkingdom.org> <702226df1003021251n1f442ec7nb9f5fb0bb8a13c23@mail.gmail.com> <20100302214224.GI1159@digitalkingdom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-archive-position: 17039 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list That's my plan when the automated import is working. -Robin On Tue, Mar 02, 2010 at 11:09:04PM +0000, Geoffrey Beresford wrote: > I know this is a bit further down the line, but right now the > smartfm words are learned in alphabetical order. What about > making the order sync up with the order they're introduced in > Lojban For Beginners (or whatever lojban-learning text people > vote for)? This would make [1]smart.fm a much more useful tool > for people learning lojban from the chosen text.  Not as > important for people who already know all/most of the lojban > vocabulary, but really important for beginners. > > -Geoff > > On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 9:42 PM, Robin Lee Powell > <[2]rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 02, 2010 at 01:51:58PM -0700, Jonathan Jones wrote: > >    Now we wait for Lindar to run the program that will > >    automatically generate the sound files for the entries, which > >    are all listed in alphabetical order in column 'H' of page > >    'items' in document '[1][3]tinyurl.com/smartfmgismu', wait for it > >    to finish, and upload them to > >    '[2][4]http://www.lojban.org/tiki/valsi+Sound+Files'. > > I'm sorry, what are you talking about?  What program?  Why would > Lindar run it; Lindar just dropped out?  I'm *totally* lost. > > My question was intended to be a largely rhetorical shot at Lindar, > btw.  I'm assuming the next step is for either someone else to offer > to do the recording, or for us to just use espeak (possibly to > replace later). > > Why did anyone even write [5]tinyurl.com/smartfmgismu ?  I don't > understand why simplifying things for [6]smart.fm is a good idea at > all, and even if it is, it can be done with a few minutes' > scripting, or pulling the data from jbofihe (which already has > phrases for all the gismu places). > >    I can't do this myself due to not having access to my computer at > this > >    point, but you could probably bash script it. Assuming that Orca is > on > >    Linux, and operates as >orca {input text} {output file} -{options}, > the > >    actual recording execution would be 'orca %1 %1.mp3', with a for > loop to > >    read in each of the column 'H' entries into %1. The hard part, I > imagine, > >    would be extracting column 'H' into a text file. > >    � > >    So, at a guess, maybe 5 minutes to extract 'H', 10 minutes to code > the > >    bash script, 45 minutes to debug and make sure it works correctly. > So, my > >    conservative estimate on the amount of time it would take to record > an > >    audio file for each of the entries is two hours, not including the > amount > >    of time spent leaving the computer on and waiting for the script to > >    finish, or the time required to upload the files (archived or > otherwise) > >    to '[4][7]http://www.lojban.org/tiki/valsi+Sound+Files'. > > If that's you volunteering, please feel free. > -Robin > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to > [8]lojban-list-request@lojban.org > with the subject unsubscribe, or go to [9]http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, > or if > you're really stuck, send mail to [10]secretary@lojban.org for help. > > References > > Visible links > 1. http://smart.fm/ > 2. mailto:rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org > 3. http://tinyurl.com/smartfmgismu > 4. http://www.lojban.org/tiki/valsi+Sound+Files > 5. http://tinyurl.com/smartfmgismu > 6. http://smart.fm/ > 7. http://www.lojban.org/tiki/valsi+Sound+Files > 8. mailto:lojban-list-request@lojban.org > 9. http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/ > 10. mailto:secretary@lojban.org -- They say: "The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons." And I'm thinking: "Does it even occur to you to try for something other than the default outcome?" See http://shrunklink.com/cdiz http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.