From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Mar 03 15:07:40 2010 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 03 Mar 2010 15:07:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NmxfH-0001Om-Am for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 15:07:39 -0800 Received: from mail-ww0-f53.google.com ([74.125.82.53]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NmxfB-0001Lr-Cs for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 15:07:39 -0800 Received: by wwi18 with SMTP id 18so1114679wwi.40 for ; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 15:07:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=51YRewB+dZi123IVcncPC3kiInalsbKkDpO7X+k7puw=; b=Hha+JOzBrTJr5kuC57hlDCMEptl8FASqouS8u4SHmP3A1QOIHgCXLn4YXbXD3PlYy8 Is2IstKlQs/g/MnU1q/HjH7cqsI6sYfUVzPJUJrgxryEpkXQZVOcdESLNQed/ONUTXPr P7KT+axElsy+36hc0bH9avQiPA2pdOcnXEANY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=jtn7xSAIfoE7n5OjB4MbwgKbtAMdRkr1a22yt7V84lbCnlkUhFsjJGJKSVCfLk7toR O5m01E7gwxQbWS26VATsbCu4CQti4tJfbD2MsBR4j1K+kFx3XCWUnvEaX3h9Sr/rcz5h H/XrQIEtxhjxxXu0tlEzs1Gv7xzfaRb8SKdKA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.89.12 with SMTP id b12mr1652646wef.93.1267657646607; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 15:07:26 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20100303192554.GW1159@digitalkingdom.org> References: <20100222160244.GS31805@digitalkingdom.org> <702226df1003010648r3b2376a1w93d7a792af638da4@mail.gmail.com> <33739.83087.qm@web50405.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20100302194118.GH1159@digitalkingdom.org> <702226df1003021251n1f442ec7nb9f5fb0bb8a13c23@mail.gmail.com> <20100302214224.GI1159@digitalkingdom.org> <702226df1003030640x2a4e76ap37aaa4cb16c8e01@mail.gmail.com> <20100303183542.GV1159@digitalkingdom.org> <20100303192554.GW1159@digitalkingdom.org> Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 16:07:26 -0700 Message-ID: <702226df1003031507m69deb676hda83197b8bc5e9ea@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban] Re: Lindar is very nice to volunteer! (was Re: Re: smart.fm and fooling text-to-speech) From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban-list@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6da2e7eb90f3d0480ed8bb7 X-archive-position: 17053 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: eyeonus@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list --0016e6da2e7eb90f3d0480ed8bb7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Robin Lee Powell < rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote: > On Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 10:35:42AM -0800, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 07:40:09AM -0700, Jonathan Jones wrote: > > > My question was intended to be a largely rhetorical shot at > > > Lindar, btw. I'm assuming the next step is for either > > > someone else to offer to do the recording, or for us to > > > just use espeak (possibly to replace later). > > > > > > I don't have a problem with the espeak audio being used, but > > > I looked at the files Dag uploaded, and it''s not what's > > > needed: it's every word individually, including cmavo, not > > > the list needed for [4]smart.fm, so most of it is unusable, > > > (everything but the gismu), and audio for the majority of > > > items is still needed (, all the sumti-fied gismu). > > > > I don't understand what you're saying. My upload script, at > > least, *wants* one file per item. What is the problem with the > > sound files Dag uploaded, exactly? > > > > Let me extract the place info from jbofihe and I'll give Dag a > > list of the place stuff. > > I have the jbofihe data. It has everything we need to automatically > generate short versions of all the gismu places, and IMO all the > stuff we need for the full gismu stuff as well. > Robin, have you even looked at the Google doc to which I consistently refer? All that has already been done. Column 'J' of page 'items' of document tinyurl.com/smartfmgismu has the jbofi'e phrases for all of the sumti-fied gismu, and the official definition from the gismu list for the plain gismu. What's needed is for {lo prenu} to go through the list and make the definitions, for lack of a better phrase, more humanly understandable. > > http://packages.debian.org/source/squeeze/jbofihe -- the relevant > files are extradict places.dat patterns, and "man smujajgau" > explains the format, if you have it installed. > > I'll see about coming up with complete data files shortly. > > -Robin > > -- > They say: "The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons." > And I'm thinking: "Does it even occur to you to try for something > other than the default outcome?" See http://shrunklink.com/cdiz > http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org > with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if > you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help. > > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu --0016e6da2e7eb90f3d0480ed8bb7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Robin Lee Powel= l <rlpo= well@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
On Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 10:35:42AM -0800, Robin Lee Powel= l wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 07:40:09AM -0700, Jonathan Jones wrote:
> > =A0 =A0 =A0My question was intended to be a largely rhetorical sh= ot at
> > =A0 =A0 =A0Lindar, btw. =A0I'm assuming the next step is for = either
> > =A0 =A0 =A0someone else to offer to do the recording, or for us t= o
> > =A0 =A0 =A0just use espeak (possibly to replace later).
> >
> > =A0 =A0I don't have a problem with the espeak audio being use= d, but
> > =A0 =A0I looked at the files Dag uploaded, and it''s not = what's
> > =A0 =A0needed: it's every word individually, including cmavo,= not
> > =A0 =A0the list needed for [4]smart.fm, so most of it is unusable,
> > =A0 =A0(everything but the gismu), and audio for the majority of<= br> > > =A0 =A0items is still needed (, all the sumti-fied gismu).
>
> I don't understand what you're saying. =A0My upload script, at=
> least, *wants* one file per item. =A0What is the problem with the
> sound files Dag uploaded, exactly?
>
> Let me extract the place info from jbofihe and I'll give Dag a
> list of the place stuff.

I have the jbofihe data. =A0It has everything we need to automaticall= y
generate short versions of all the gismu places, and IMO all the
stuff we need for the full gismu stuff as well.

Robin, have you even looked at the Google doc to which I consisten= tly refer? All that has already been done. Column 'J' of page '= items' of document tinyurl.= com/smartfmgismu has the jbofi'e phrases for all of the sumti-fied = gismu, and the official definition from the gismu list for the plain gismu.= What's needed is for {lo prenu} to go through the list and make the de= finitions, for lack of a better phrase, more humanly understandable.

http://packages.debian.org/source/squeeze/jbofihe -- the relevant<= br> files are extradict places.dat patterns, and "man smujajgau"
explains the format, if you have it installed.

I'll see about coming up with complete data files shortly.

-Robin

--
They say: =A0"The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons.&= quot;
And I'm =A0thinking: =A0"Does it even occur to you to try for some= thing
other =A0than =A0the default =A0outcome?" =A0See http://shrunklink.com/cdiz
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