From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sun Mar 07 08:42:25 2010 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 07 Mar 2010 08:42:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NoJYe-0004dK-Rf for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sun, 07 Mar 2010 08:42:25 -0800 Received: from mail-ww0-f53.google.com ([74.125.82.53]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NoJYQ-0004Yw-TI for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sun, 07 Mar 2010 08:42:19 -0800 Received: by wwi18 with SMTP id 18so3081363wwi.40 for ; Sun, 07 Mar 2010 08:42:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Q3L9yGHheSa/Ogqk6jj/O9nKYQwb8ruZLw+HuvluMR4=; b=HnBvkCT/3igLby3RiiYbH4xXy3v9A7I7jrZQGsitS9UbG9s9glxIJ4tY5YRbKu6oJ0 y0/jAfzkDtlZOMZcf1nKhD1GlI9t2ZTKMa2YX6DkDzy2ZCy3RiPx5Lfqe35227C5/B+v qMTvwMu5ykGa9pmpNvgpIXamB5FzmqnnQqOiU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=EGJY1Pg6+7eoD5X8/uEQPR/tnYTzdt16QajLCFpXDbhZZMG7A4H0xpSakCm9bCKkHO DuT90MWpEsUTTD3xTGbtEoK9ZbbXrfNmr2bFQ/squLWcR3lgVnsencr3r88fxccMUOUo nJluqeIh4UAUFMTR25+PVjtzIUFVZ1xBBx7Go= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.87.13 with SMTP id x13mr1871078wee.12.1267980123467; Sun, 07 Mar 2010 08:42:03 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B93D4E9.5090402@perpetuum-immobile.de> References: <20100307.005234.11213.1@webmail02.dca.untd.com> <925d17561003070738x31668652o825d8d66a183e3fa@mail.gmail.com> <4B93CB0C.20706@perpetuum-immobile.de> <201003071126.19157.phma@phma.optus.nu> <4B93D4E9.5090402@perpetuum-immobile.de> Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 09:42:03 -0700 Message-ID: <702226df1003070842y59cca37ch2947412fc3f2addd@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban] Re: zsh From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban-list@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d99f29d76f6f048138a022 X-archive-position: 17121 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: eyeonus@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list --0016e6d99f29d76f6f048138a022 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I would assume that in any language, 'zsh' is called 'Z shell' or it's linguistic equivalent, regardless of how 'Z' is pronounced. In Lojban, 'z' is pronounced {zy.}. Therefore, it seems to me that the best lojban name for it would be the suggestion by xorxes of {zycel}. On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 9:31 AM, Timo Paulssen < timonator@perpetuum-immobile.de> wrote: > Pierre Abbat wrote: > > Depends on what you call the letter 'z'. I call it "zee" in English but > "zed" > > in French. > > > > Pierre > > Actually wikipedia claims it's etymologically derived from the name of > Zhong > Shao [1], so maybe someone knows how his name is pronounced and give some > insight? > > ta'o most germans say "zed cel", as "tset" is the german pronunciation of > "z". > > mu'o mi'e timos > > [1] http://cs-www.cs.yale.edu/homes/shao/ > > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu --0016e6d99f29d76f6f048138a022 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I would assume that in any language, 'zsh' is called 'Z shell&#= 39; or it's linguistic equivalent, regardless of how 'Z' is pro= nounced.=A0In Lojban, 'z' is pronounced {zy.}.=A0Therefore, it seem= s to me that the best lojban name for it would be the suggestion by xorxes = of {zycel}.

On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 9:31 AM, Timo Paulsse= n <timonator@perpetuum-immobile.de> wrote:
=
Pierre Abbat wrote:
> Depends on what you call the letter 'z'. I call it "zee&q= uot; in English but "zed"
> in French.
>
> Pierre

Actually wikipedia claims it's etymologically derived from the name of = Zhong
Shao [1], so maybe someone knows how his name is pronounced and give some i= nsight?

ta'o most germans say "zed cel", as "tset" is the g= erman pronunciation of "z".

mu'o mi'e timos

[1] htt= p://cs-www.cs.yale.edu/homes/shao/




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mu'o mi'e .aion= ys.

.i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu

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