From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Mar 09 14:33:55 2010 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 09 Mar 2010 14:33:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Np7zs-0001DB-1q for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Tue, 09 Mar 2010 14:33:54 -0800 Received: from mail-bw0-f219.google.com ([209.85.218.219]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Np7zf-00018z-NK for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 09 Mar 2010 14:33:46 -0800 Received: by bwz19 with SMTP id 19so1216071bwz.26 for ; Tue, 09 Mar 2010 14:33:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=E6taJX03sVSx4UKJge5TvAF7Shua6+L9tvDbmRRvaMo=; b=D6oG6sRTM7CN68eSa9FqwI2toLf9PX8E8qUvnGOkeq/y9WIZ5eZyvqDlPpGtdWTASH DQd5cOUtw3fx4oi9sSnhYoGFj4ahZV9qwZsM137PUeiRgRCV61sv1ZZvpGORHvqRx5lN dN0aUxFdmjZMYU3U1l1D4rqCYGmRr8N4evDaQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=QmvC7vDANEebPfbQjxQPLTbY/g0883jmd0XhOglkFAPdxpDWsDLExMkeHuvIrsrAXJ 5caEfB57VkM4S+TV0rj8pB53INtlDyjVMKgTg5kZauTFfg4/GI2UaxvnHW8gSWidN3dF c5VlINmJAtP+D+SlrIx2l0B24zdRQM3iUEwVo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.134.23 with SMTP id h23mr569163bkt.111.1268174011950; Tue, 09 Mar 2010 14:33:31 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <201003091700.24760.phma@phma.optus.nu> References: <96f789a61003090826i27a6531eob88df0e3bfce7e14@mail.gmail.com> <925d17561003090917y2816542eh14ea3b879ea2259@mail.gmail.com> <201003091700.24760.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 19:33:31 -0300 Message-ID: <925d17561003091433u7b3f4b5cge0b83c5df8e0942d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban] Re: stage-4 fu'ivla construction exception? From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-list@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-archive-position: 17152 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 7:00 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Tuesday 09 March 2010 12:17:21 Jorge Llambías wrote: >> >> The way I have proposed to solve this is to add a rule that says that >> the lojbanized part of the fu'ivla, before adding the classifier, has >> to consist of valid lojban syllables (i.e., it has to start with a >> valid initial), so "jikrldjine" can only be analyzed as jikr-l-djine. > > The way I think it should be resolved, and the way I think jbofi'e does it, is > that if a stage-3 fu'ivla can be analyzed into either 3-letter rafsi + > foreign part or 4-letter rafsi + foreign part, use the 4-letter rafsi. Fortunately, your rule and my rule always end up with the same result. > There are some foreign parts which begin > with invalid initial clusters for which it would be nice to be able to form > fu'ivla, such as "gbe" ("bangrgbe"), a subfamily of African languages. camxes won't accept "bangrgbe" because it doesn't consist of lojbanic syllables. mu'o mi'e xorxes To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.