From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Mar 10 06:44:20 2010 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 10 Mar 2010 06:44:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NpN91-0000sy-Jc for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 06:44:20 -0800 Received: from mail-ww0-f53.google.com ([74.125.82.53]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NpN8n-0000qa-Ah for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 06:44:12 -0800 Received: by wwi17 with SMTP id 17so780789wwi.40 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 06:43:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ia+4lylzsGBdyCOqpqdOT2hM8S2KIRWy5HFQ0oJ/PE4=; b=RP1VD1GaYT/ZsDEtejdcJAxv7iK0M2BeK7fPuu1WYr1ot0MaWgX2AV0rnb9A/Sh5DK rIMe9M1u3NkAJhrF/sulwODyEpLbewTcb7bPtzvHw1nRYCfqZwNcg1Z4kzrRI2ZsmQnc vaE1ZkUyBMSwBJa9wFk7JLZzXKDtEY0EkfhZA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=IqMQLdGkIA+61exiARWP4msTuQolV87MDJXjWNtPUFqGQPqdw+NI7LRDWhRkuL1E9d gMsZk/QUUJ3nhcz7EDVNzmKUAzlUdgj7o/Zgjv6OMtyhTkCEOATPtOEYJ4jeqeUXTYEg fbWToXrzueDaHuIgf4OKuXk6eXDPwFTWsGp3w= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.89.73 with SMTP id b51mr648891wef.125.1268232237236; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 06:43:57 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20100308015605.GQ19073@digitalkingdom.org> References: <702226df1003070834y45826f8fj7e2e424319b93a7f@mail.gmail.com> <20100307174142.GI19073@digitalkingdom.org> <702226df1003071000r629f941bsf49ddaf5aec5a01d@mail.gmail.com> <702226df1003071025u5813cff0p3a7e68d293dc40cb@mail.gmail.com> <20100307183748.GK19073@digitalkingdom.org> <702226df1003071203h5180399bvc8df5374c8b128c@mail.gmail.com> <20100307205027.GN19073@digitalkingdom.org> <702226df1003071356ia724ef3s3e213f480a3b6917@mail.gmail.com> <20100308015232.GP19073@digitalkingdom.org> <20100308015605.GQ19073@digitalkingdom.org> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 07:43:57 -0700 Message-ID: <702226df1003100643g39563acagba9f4b9c25d6a10b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban] Re: mass-uploading? From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban-list@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d64486fe562b0481735307 X-archive-position: 17154 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: eyeonus@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list --0016e6d64486fe562b0481735307 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just wanted to make sure that you were aware of something, as I'm not certain that you are. There are actually three lessons on Smart.fm for the items: The all-inclusive lesson, which is to contain all the items: http://smart.fm/goals/179543 The place-structure lesson, which to contain the bare gismu: http://smart.fm/goals/179606 And the sumti lesson, which is to contain the gismu sumti: http://smart.fm/goals/179607 So, when you do the uploading, I ask that you please upload the appropriate items to the other two lessons as well. Also, do you want the third (part of speech) and fourth (.mp3 filename) columns when I send you the list back? I've used the conventions of calling gismu "Phrase" (E) and gismu sumti "Noun" (N) in order to make it easier to separate them from each other for inclusion into the other lesson they respectively go into. If not, I can easily delete those columns from the document. On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 6:56 PM, Robin Lee Powell < rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote: > Erm. Sorry, sorting it means that you have no easy way to figure > out which stuff I added. My bad. > > http://teddyb.org/~rlpowell/public_media/simplified_gismu.tsv > > I'll re-sort it when I upload. > > This used the google doc as a starting point and filled in anything > that was blank. > > -Robin > > On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 05:52:32PM -0800, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > http://teddyb.org/~rlpowell/public_media/simplified_gismu_sorted.tsv > > > > That's sorted by frequency of usage, so you don't spend a bunch of > > time learning random crap. > > > > Now, what about the cmavo? > > > > -Robin > > > > On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 02:56:46PM -0700, Jonathan Jones wrote: > > > Sounds good to me. > > > > > > On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Robin Lee Powell > > > <[1]rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote: > > > > > > OK, but it sounded like you'd have to manually copy and paste > > > whatever I do, which is a horrible waste of effort. > > > > > > Since it's all just going to drive my script anyways, I think it > > > would be better if you just edit what I come up with directly, a= nd > > > send it back. > > > -Robin > > > On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 01:03:35PM -0700, Jonathan Jones wrote: > > > > Honestly, I'd much rather edit the items BEFORE they are > uploaded > > > > to Smart.fm, because that would be easier and much less time > > > > consuming. > > > > > > > > I doubt you've ever tried to edit an item on Smart.fm, so take > my > > > > word for it that it is at least five times as difficult to edi= t > an > > > > item after being uploaded than it is to double-check the items > in > > > > a document beforehand- which as far as I'm concerned is the ma= in > > > > reason for the Google doc. > > > > > > > > If you can give me the gismu sumti, and some time to double > check > > > > the list so that we won't need to worry about editing the item= s > > > > after the upload, I can fix up the Google doc to be exactly wh= at > > > > your script needs, with all the needed information and > formatting. > > > > > > > > On 3/7/10, Robin Lee Powell <[2]rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> > wrote: > > > > > That would be my site, and those would be my scripts, and th= e > sound > > > > > uploads via API are *still* broken: > > > > > [3]http://developer.smart.fm/forum/read/67134 > > > > > > > > > > There's a workaround, though; give me a day or so and I'll > have a > > > > > complete upload done with good-enough text, which y'all can > then > > > > > edit to your heart's content (since I'm told people can be > allowed > > > > > to edit each other's items now). > > > > > > > > > > Anybody who wants to edit the results should send me their > > > [4]smart.fm > > > > > userid. > > > > > > > > > > -Robin > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 11:25:43AM -0700, Jonathan Jones > wrote: > > > > >> Okay, a little Google search and I found the following > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > site:=EF=BF=BD[1][5] > http://teddyb.org/rlp/tiki-index.php?page=3DMass+Upload+To+Smart.FM, > > > > >> which has two Ruby scripts specifically for mass uploadi= ng > > > items. > > > > >> > > > > >> On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Jonathan Jones > > > <[2][6]eyeonus@gmail.com> > > > > >> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> Okay, but what about uploading the items themselves? A= s > far as > > > I know > > > > >> they haven't even done that bit yet. > > > > >> > > > > >> On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Robin Lee Powell > > > > >> <[3][7]rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 05:38:37PM +0100, Timo > Paulssen > > > wrote: > > > > >> > [4][8]smart.fm already offers an interface that a > script > > > can access, > > > > >> the > > > > >> > website itself. With the right tools, it should be > > > possible to > > > > >> > mass-upload the valsi definitions as well as the > sounds > > > without > > > > >> > the [5][9]smart.fm folks having to expose any othe= r > kind > > > of API to > > > > >> us. > > > > >> I > > > > >> > dunno if rlp knows how to best do that, though. > > > > >> > > > > >> The sound uploads via API are broken: > > > > >> [6][10]http://developer.smart.fm/forum/read/67134 > > > > >> > > > > >> I suppose I could use the HTTP based upload instead = of > the > > > > >> multipart > > > > >> upload; just makes the script less useful to other > people. > > > > >> > > > > >> -Robin > > > > >> > > > > >> -- > > > > >> They say: =EF=BF=BD"The first AIs will be built by t= he > military as > > > > >> weapons." > > > > >> And I'm =EF=BF=BDthinking: =EF=BF=BD"Does it even oc= cur to you to try > for > > > something > > > > >> other =EF=BF=BDthan =EF=BF=BDthe default =EF=BF=BDou= tcome?" =EF=BF=BDSee > > > > >> [7][11]http://shrunklink.com/cdiz > > > > >> [8][12]http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** > > > > >> [9][13]http://www.lojban.org/ > > > > >> > > > > >> To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to > > > > >> [10][14]lojban-list-request@lojban.org > > > > >> with the subject unsubscribe, or go to > > > > >> [11][15]http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if > > > > >> you're really stuck, send mail to > > > [12][16]secretary@lojban.org for > > > > >> help. > > > > >> > > > > >> -- > > > > >> mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > > > >> > > > > >> .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu > > > > >> > > > > >> -- > > > > >> mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > > > >> > > > > >> .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu > > > > >> > > > > >> References > > > > >> > > > > >> Visible links > > > > >> 1. > > > [17] > http://teddyb.org/rlp/tiki-index.php?page=3DMass+Upload+To+Smart.FM > > > > >> 2. mailto:[18]eyeonus@gmail.com > > > > >> 3. mailto:[19]rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org > > > > >> 4. [20]http://smart.fm/ > > > > >> 5. [21]http://smart.fm/ > > > > >> 6. [22]http://developer.smart.fm/forum/read/67134 > > > > >> 7. [23]http://shrunklink.com/cdiz > > > > >> 8. [24]http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ > > > > >> 9. [25]http://www.lojban.org/ > > > > >> 10. mailto:[26]lojban-list-request@lojban.org > > > > >> 11. [27]http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/ > > > > >> 12. mailto:[28]secretary@lojban.org > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > They say: "The first AIs will be built by the military as > weapons." > > > > > And I'm thinking: "Does it even occur to you to try for > something > > > > > other than the default outcome?" See > > > [29]http://shrunklink.com/cdiz > > > > > [30]http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** > > > [31]http://www.lojban.org/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to > > > [32]lojban-list-request@lojban.org > > > > > with the subject unsubscribe, or go to > > > [33]http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if > > > > > you're really stuck, send mail to [34]secretary@lojban.orgfo= r help. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > > > > > > > .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu > > > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to > > > [35]lojban-list-request@lojban.org > > > > with the subject unsubscribe, or go to > > > [36]http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if > > > > you're really stuck, send mail to [37]secretary@lojban.org for > help. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > They say: "The first AIs will be built by the military as > weapons." > > > And I'm thinking: "Does it even occur to you to try for > something > > > other than the default outcome?" See [38] > http://shrunklink.com/cdiz > > > [39]http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** > > > [40]http://www.lojban.org/ > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to > > > [41]lojban-list-request@lojban.org > > > with the subject unsubscribe, or go to [42] > http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, > > > or if > > > you're really stuck, send mail to [43]secretary@lojban.org for > help. > > > > > > -- > > > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > > > > > .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu > > > > > > References > > > > > > Visible links > > > 1. mailto:rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org > > > 2. mailto:rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org > > > 3. http://developer.smart.fm/forum/read/67134 > > > 4. http://smart.fm/ > > > 5. > http://teddyb.org/rlp/tiki-index.php?page=3DMass+Upload+To+Smart.FM > > > 6. mailto:eyeonus@gmail.com > > > 7. mailto:rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org > > > 8. http://smart.fm/ > > > 9. http://smart.fm/ > > > 10. http://developer.smart.fm/forum/read/67134 > > > 11. http://shrunklink.com/cdiz > > > 12. http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ > > > 13. http://www.lojban.org/ > > > 14. mailto:lojban-list-request@lojban.org > > > 15. http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/ > > > 16. mailto:secretary@lojban.org > > > 17. > http://teddyb.org/rlp/tiki-index.php?page=3DMass+Upload+To+Smart.FM > > > 18. mailto:eyeonus@gmail.com > > > 19. mailto:rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org > > > 20. http://smart.fm/ > > > 21. http://smart.fm/ > > > 22. http://developer.smart.fm/forum/read/67134 > > > 23. http://shrunklink.com/cdiz > > > 24. http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ > > > 25. http://www.lojban.org/ > > > 26. mailto:lojban-list-request@lojban.org > > > 27. http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/ > > > 28. mailto:secretary@lojban.org > > > 29. http://shrunklink.com/cdiz > > > 30. http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ > > > 31. http://www.lojban.org/ > > > 32. mailto:lojban-list-request@lojban.org > > > 33. http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/ > > > 34. mailto:secretary@lojban.org > > > 35. mailto:lojban-list-request@lojban.org > > > 36. http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/ > > > 37. mailto:secretary@lojban.org > > > 38. http://shrunklink.com/cdiz > > > 39. http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ > > > 40. http://www.lojban.org/ > > > 41. mailto:lojban-list-request@lojban.org > > > 42. http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/ > > > 43. mailto:secretary@lojban.org > > > > -- > > They say: "The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons." > > And I'm thinking: "Does it even occur to you to try for something > > other than the default outcome?" See http://shrunklink.com/cdiz > > http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to > lojban-list-request@lojban.org > > with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or > if > > you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help. > > > > -- > They say: "The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons." > And I'm thinking: "Does it even occur to you to try for something > other than the default outcome?" See http://shrunklink.com/cdiz > http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.or= g > with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if > you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help. > > --=20 mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu --0016e6d64486fe562b0481735307 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just wanted to make sure that you were aware of something, as I'm not= certain that you are.

There are actually three lessons = on Smart.fm for the items:

The all-inclusive lesso= n, which is to contain all the items:=C2=A0http://smart.fm/goals/179543
The place-structure lesso= n, which to contain the bare gismu:=C2=A0http://smart.fm/goals/179606
And the sumti lesson, which is to contain the gismu sum= ti:=C2=A0http://smart.fm/goals/179= 607

So, when y= ou do the uploading, I ask that you please upload the appropriate items to = the other two lessons as well.

Also, do you want t= he third (part of speech) and fourth (.mp3 filename) columns when I send yo= u the list back? I've used the conventions of calling gismu "Phras= e" (E) and gismu sumti "Noun" (N) in order to make it easier= to separate them from each other for inclusion into the other lesson they = respectively go into. If not, I can easily delete those columns from the do= cument.

On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 6:56 PM, Robin Lee Po= well <r= lpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
Erm. =C2=A0Sorry, sorting it means that you have no easy way to figure
out which stuff I added. =C2=A0My bad.

http://teddyb.org/~rlpowell/public_media/simplified_gismu.= tsv

I'll re-sort it when I upload.

This used the google doc as a starting point and filled in anything
that was blank.

-Robin

On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 05:52:32PM -0800, Robin Lee Powell wrote:
> http://teddyb.org/~rlpowell/public_media/simpl= ified_gismu_sorted.tsv
>
> That's sorted by frequency of usage, so you don't spend a bunc= h of
> time learning random crap.
>
> Now, what about the cmavo?
>
> -Robin
>
> On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 02:56:46PM -0700, Jonathan Jones wrote:
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0Sounds good to me.
> >
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Robin Lee Powell
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0<[1]rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
> >
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0OK, but it sounded like you'd have to man= ually copy and paste
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0whatever I do, which is a horrible waste of e= ffort.
> >
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Since it's all just going to drive my scr= ipt anyways, I think it
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0would be better if you just edit what I come = up with directly, and
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0send it back.
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-Robin
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 01:03:35PM -0700, Jon= athan Jones wrote:
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> Honestly, I'd much rather edit the i= tems BEFORE they are uploaded
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> to Smart.fm, because that would be easie= r and much less time
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> consuming.
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> I doubt you've ever tried to edit an= item on Smart.fm, so take my
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> word for it that it is at least five tim= es as difficult to edit an
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> item after being uploaded than it is to = double-check the items in
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> a document beforehand- which as far as I= 'm concerned is the main
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> reason for the Google doc.
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> If you can give me the gismu sumti, and = some time to double check
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> the list so that we won't need to wo= rry about editing the items
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> after the upload, I can fix up the Googl= e doc to be exactly what
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> your script needs, with all the needed i= nformation and formatting.
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> On 3/7/10, Robin Lee Powell <[2]rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org&g= t; wrote:
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> > That would be my site, and those wo= uld be my scripts, and the sound
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> > uploads via API are *still* broken:=
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> > [3]http://developer.smart.fm/forum/re= ad/67134
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> > There's a workaround, though; g= ive me a day or so and I'll have a
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> > complete upload done with good-enou= gh text, which y'all can then
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> > edit to your heart's content (s= ince I'm told people can be allowed
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> > to edit each other's items now)= .
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> > Anybody who wants to edit the resul= ts should send me their
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0[4]smart.fm
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> > userid.
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> > -Robin
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> > On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 11:25:43AM = -0700, Jonathan Jones wrote:
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0Okay, a little Goo= gle search and I found the following
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >>
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >>
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0site:=EF=BF=BD[1][5]ht= tp://teddyb.org/rlp/tiki-index.php?page=3DMass+Upload+To+Smart.FM,
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0which has two Ruby= scripts specifically for mass uploading
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0items.
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >>
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0On Sun, Mar 7, 201= 0 at 11:00 AM, Jonathan Jones
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<[2][6]eyeonus@gmail.com>
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0wrote:
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >>
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Okay, but w= hat about uploading the items themselves? As far as
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I know
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0they haven&= #39;t even done that bit yet.
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >>
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0On Sun, Mar= 7, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Robin Lee Powell
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<[3][7]<= a href=3D"mailto:rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org">rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >>
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0On S= un, Mar 07, 2010 at 05:38:37PM +0100, Timo Paulssen
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0wrote:
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>= [4][8]smart.fm already o= ffers an interface that a script
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0can access,
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0the<= br> > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>= website itself. With the right tools, it should be
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0possible to
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>= mass-upload the valsi definitions as well as the sounds
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0without
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>= the [5][9]smart.fm folks= having to expose any other kind
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0of API to
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> us.
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>= dunno if rlp knows how to best do that, though.
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >>
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0The = sound uploads via API are broken:
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0[6][= 10]http://developer.smart.fm/forum/read/67134
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >>
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I su= ppose I could use the HTTP based upload instead of the
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> multipart
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0uplo= ad; just makes the script less useful to other people.
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >>
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-Rob= in
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >>
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-- > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0They= say: =EF=BF=BD"The first AIs will be built by the military as
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> weapons."
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0And = I'm =EF=BF=BDthinking: =EF=BF=BD"Does it even occur to you to try = for
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0something
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0othe= r =EF=BF=BDthan =EF=BF=BDthe default =EF=BF=BDoutcome?" =EF=BF=BDSee > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> [7][11]http://shrunklink.com/cdiz
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0[8][= 12]h= ttp://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ ***
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0[9][= 13]http://www.lojban.o= rg/
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >>
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> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0you&= #39;re really stuck, send mail to
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> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0--
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0mu'o mi= 'e .aionys.
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >>
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0.i.a'o.= e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >>
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0--
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0mu'o mi'e = .aionys.
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >>
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0.i.a'o.e'e= ko klama le bende pe denpa bu
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >>
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> References
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >>
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0Visible links
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A01.
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0[17]http://teddyb.org/= rlp/tiki-index.php?page=3DMass+Upload+To+Smart.FM
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A02. mailto:[18]eyeonus@gmail.com
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A03. mailto:[19]rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org<= br> > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A04. [20]http://smart.fm/
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A05. [21]http://smart.fm/
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A06. [22]http://develo= per.smart.fm/forum/read/67134
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A07. [23]http://shrunklink.com/cdiz
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A08. [24]http://www.digi= talkingdom.org/~rlpowell/
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A09. [25]http://www.lojban.org/
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 10. mailto:[26]lojban-list-request@lojban.org
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 11. [27]http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/ > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 12. mailto:[28]secretary@lojban.org
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> > --
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> > They say: =C2=A0"The first AIs= will be built by the military as weapons."
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> > And I'm =C2=A0thinking: =C2=A0&= quot;Does it even occur to you to try for something
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> > other =C2=A0than =C2=A0the default = =C2=A0outcome?" =C2=A0See
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0[29]http://shrunklink.com/cdiz
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> > [30]http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpo= well/ ***
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0[31]http://www.lojban.org/
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >
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> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> --
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> mu'o mi'e .aionys.
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe = denpa bu
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>
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> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>
> >
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0--
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0They say: =C2=A0"The first AIs will be b= uilt by the military as weapons."
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0And I'm =C2=A0thinking: =C2=A0"Does = it even occur to you to try for something
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0other =C2=A0than =C2=A0the default =C2=A0outc= ome?" =C2=A0See [38]http://shrunklink.com/cdiz
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0[39]http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ = ***
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0[40]http://www.lojban.org/
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> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0or if
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> >
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0--
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0mu'o mi'e .aionys.
> >
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0.i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu
> >
> > References
> >
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0Visible links
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A01. mailto:rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A02. mailto:rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A03. http://developer.smart.fm/forum/read/67134
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A04. ht= tp://smart.fm/
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A05. http://teddyb.org/rlp/tiki= -index.php?page=3DMass+Upload+To+Smart.FM
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A06. mailto:eyeon= us@gmail.com
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A07. mailto:rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A08. ht= tp://smart.fm/
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A09. ht= tp://smart.fm/
> > =C2=A0 10. http://developer.smart.fm/forum/read/67134
> > =C2=A0 11. http://shrunklink.com/cdiz
> > =C2=A0 12. http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/
> > =C2=A0 13. h= ttp://www.lojban.org/
> > =C2=A0 14. mailto:lojban-list-request@lojban.org
> > =C2=A0 15. http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/
> > =C2=A0 16. mailto:secreta= ry@lojban.org
> > =C2=A0 17. http://teddyb.org/rlp/tiki-in= dex.php?page=3DMass+Upload+To+Smart.FM
> > =C2=A0 18. mailto:eyeonus@gm= ail.com
> > =C2=A0 19. mailto:= rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org
> > =C2=A0 20. http://= smart.fm/
> > =C2=A0 21. http://= smart.fm/
> > =C2=A0 22. http://developer.smart.fm/forum/read/67134
> > =C2=A0 23. http://shrunklink.com/cdiz
> > =C2=A0 24. http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/
> > =C2=A0 25. h= ttp://www.lojban.org/
> > =C2=A0 26. mailto:lojban-list-request@lojban.org
> > =C2=A0 27. http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/
> > =C2=A0 28. mailto:secreta= ry@lojban.org
> > =C2=A0 29. http://shrunklink.com/cdiz
> > =C2=A0 30. http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/
> > =C2=A0 31. h= ttp://www.lojban.org/
> > =C2=A0 32. mailto:lojban-list-request@lojban.org
> > =C2=A0 33. http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/
> > =C2=A0 34. mailto:secreta= ry@lojban.org
> > =C2=A0 35. mailto:lojban-list-request@lojban.org
> > =C2=A0 36. http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/
> > =C2=A0 37. mailto:secreta= ry@lojban.org
> > =C2=A0 38. http://shrunklink.com/cdiz
> > =C2=A0 39. http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/
> > =C2=A0 40. h= ttp://www.lojban.org/
> > =C2=A0 41. mailto:lojban-list-request@lojban.org
> > =C2=A0 42. http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/
> > =C2=A0 43. mailto:secreta= ry@lojban.org
>
> --
> They say: =C2=A0"The first AIs will be built by the military as w= eapons."
> And I'm =C2=A0thinking: =C2=A0"Does it even occur to you to t= ry for something
> other =C2=A0than =C2=A0the default =C2=A0outcome?" =C2=A0See http://shrunklink.com/= cdiz
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