From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Mar 11 12:35:56 2010 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:35:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Npp6p-0004Jp-Mp for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:35:56 -0800 Received: from mail-ww0-f53.google.com ([74.125.82.53]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Npp6c-0004Dm-L6 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:35:52 -0800 Received: by wwi17 with SMTP id 17so371143wwi.40 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:35:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=5q1zu7BUr0pE546iXt6ryg/L7UfjMiz+k2aQNKP6fK4=; b=qU5UmZHgpBwiZuBRCZOowjMCBw/bx9UQ9qZBPHDbCDKXwFmLlQI6fp6e5PnXP6BVkQ ilGb7D/ncaihEgj9jJ7tpvOrTUXTcacDn+qXk87T1+bZ0wQRK8naN6wjhyLFJ47ynzKm jSQg4M35mRotcZaW+i8K07ZWYKDbjcoicN2SY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=AE56ahrIv+3OmyJ4qM2YzC0q74mvy3SmesUEYxfLY9cNYY0Txnw2Xud0fMZnCaSU8L YbTRsj+4RkwK0nZ3flQsDMihit+TY+fjwylY0MTVpDnqlU9U75EVQFXlzHk55/5z0EW3 cpX9wHF3ivq8fInzWC4mNPn05YamgDsYgb/20= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.179.18 with SMTP id g18mr72818wem.52.1268339735689; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:35:35 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20100311202532.GF10385@digitalkingdom.org> References: <20100308015232.GP19073@digitalkingdom.org> <702226df1003100643g39563acagba9f4b9c25d6a10b@mail.gmail.com> <20100310174655.GC10526@digitalkingdom.org> <702226df1003101110m5fa812auf470e10e3d24db4c@mail.gmail.com> <20100310193016.GA10385@digitalkingdom.org> <702226df1003101327x44078707raa5d322c03d9fb67@mail.gmail.com> <20100310213254.GC10385@digitalkingdom.org> <702226df1003101523q59bfa28ajd6c868d9ab13409f@mail.gmail.com> <702226df1003110646l1d8ab798y92984424ede3f350@mail.gmail.com> <20100311202532.GF10385@digitalkingdom.org> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 13:35:35 -0700 Message-ID: <702226df1003111235u2ddca307t6c5cdf3942248c7e@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban] Re: mass-uploading? From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban-list@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016367b689e66842b04818c5baf X-archive-position: 17167 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: eyeonus@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list --0016367b689e66842b04818c5baf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Honestly, I have absolutely no qualms whatsoever with you deleting the item= s in the list currently, provided the upload works. Of course, once you know for certain that things *do* work, I would much rather you upload to the existing lists than to create new ones- partly because the people currently subscribed to learn the lesson won't have to find the new lesson, partly because the guy putting the news on lojban.orgwon't have to find out what the address is for a new lesson, and mostly because of stubborn pride. ;) On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 1:25 PM, Robin Lee Powell < rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote: > So many questions! :D > > I'll be testing today, I hope. > > I won't be trying to update the current lists, because the way the > code works is that it starts be deleting the list, which I suspect > you'd rather I didn't, at least until I'm sure things work. > > -Robin > > On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 07:46:46AM -0700, Jonathan Jones wrote: > > Out of curiosity, when can we expect to see the items start > > being uploaded, have you tested to see if you can upload to the > > existing lesson, do you think it would be more likely to be > > possible if you had my Smart.fm user/pass, since I'm the > > creator, and have you finished the workaround for the audio > > uploading? > > > > On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 4:23 PM, Jonathan Jones <[1]eyeonus@gmail.co= m > > > > wrote: > > > > I've finished checking it all. Here's the .tsv, I didn't remove an= y > of > > the columns. > > > > On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 2:32 PM, Robin Lee Powell > > <[2]rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote: > > > > No; I can process anything you throw at me. > > > > -Robin > > On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 02:27:53PM -0700, Jonathan Jones wrote: > > > The document I have has the following columns- > cue, response, POS > > > letter, .mp3 filename, (original) order number. Do you want > me to > > delete > > > any of those columns before I send it to you? > > > On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Robin Lee Powell > > > <[1][3]rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 12:10:09PM -0700, Jonathan Jones > wrote: > > > > Anything that can be done by a computer without to= o > much > > > > trouble, sohuld be. =EF=BF=BDIf you see regulariti= es in what > I > > gave > > > > you that could be exploited to make a better list > > > > automatically, you should be telling me about them= . > > =EF=BF=BDSpending > > > > human time when computer time will do is just sill= y. > > > > > > > > I did tell you about the most prevalent pattern: "a(= n) > ... > > > > thing", and the desired alteration: "something..." > > > > > > > > As in: "a drunk thing" -> "something drunk" > > > > > > > > Another thing I've seen a lot of is too many "e"s. A= s > in > > "a > > > > useer", which I take to be "a use-er" with the dash > taken > > out. > > > > > > > > And another one I mentioned: "an express commenter" = -> > "an > > > > expresser of a=EF=BF=BDcomment" > > > > > > > > however, "a ... standard" -> "a standard of ..." oug= ht > to > > be.) > > > > > > If you explained those, I missed it. If you send me wha= t > you > > have, > > > I can do all that if you like. > > > -Robin > > > > > > -- > > > They say: "The first AIs will be built by the military a= s > > weapons." > > > And I'm thinking: "Does it even occur to you to try for > > something > > > other than the default outcome?" See > > [2][4]http://shrunklink.com/cdiz > > > [3][5]http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** > > > [4][6]http://www.lojban.org/ > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to > > > [5][7]lojban-list-request@lojban.org > > > with the subject unsubscribe, or go to > > [6][8]http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, > > > or if > > > you're really stuck, send mail to [7][9] > secretary@lojban.org > > for help. > > > > > > -- > > > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > > > > > .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu > > > > > > References > > > > > > Visible links > > > 1. mailto:[10]rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org > > > 2. [11]http://shrunklink.com/cdiz > > > 3. [12]http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ > > > 4. [13]http://www.lojban.org/ > > > 5. mailto:[14]lojban-list-request@lojban.org > > > 6. [15]http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/ > > > 7. mailto:[16]secretary@lojban.org > > -- > > They say: "The first AIs will be built by the military as > weapons." > > And I'm thinking: "Does it even occur to you to try for > something > > other than the default outcome?" See > > [17]http://shrunklink.com/cdiz > > [18]http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** > > [19]http://www.lojban.org/ > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to > > [20]lojban-list-request@lojban.org > > with the subject unsubscribe, or go to > > [21]http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if > > you're really stuck, send mail to [22]secretary@lojban.org for > help. > > > > -- > > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > > > .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu > > > > -- > > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > > > .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu > > > > References > > > > Visible links > > 1. mailto:eyeonus@gmail.com > > 2. mailto:rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org > > 3. mailto:rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org > > 4. http://shrunklink.com/cdiz > > 5. http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ > > 6. http://www.lojban.org/ > > 7. mailto:lojban-list-request@lojban.org > > 8. http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/ > > 9. mailto:secretary@lojban.org > > 10. mailto:rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org > > 11. http://shrunklink.com/cdiz > > 12. http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ > > 13. http://www.lojban.org/ > > 14. mailto:lojban-list-request@lojban.org > > 15. http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/ > > 16. mailto:secretary@lojban.org > > 17. http://shrunklink.com/cdiz > > 18. http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ > > 19. http://www.lojban.org/ > > 20. mailto:lojban-list-request@lojban.org > > 21. http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/ > > 22. mailto:secretary@lojban.org > > -- > They say: "The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons." > And I'm thinking: "Does it even occur to you to try for something > other than the default outcome?" See http://shrunklink.com/cdiz > http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.or= g > with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if > you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help. > > --=20 mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu --0016367b689e66842b04818c5baf Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Honestly, I have absolutely no qualms whatsoever with you deleting the= items in the list currently, provided the upload works.
=C2=A0
Of course, once you know for certain that things do work, I w= ould much rather you upload to the existing lists than to create new ones- = partly because the people currently subscribed to learn the lesson won'= t have to find the new lesson, partly because the guy putting the news on <= a href=3D"http://lojban.org">lojban.org won't have to find out what= the address is for a new lesson, and mostly because of stubborn pride. ;)<= br>
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 1:25 PM, Robin Lee Powel= l <rlpo= well@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
So many questions! :D

I&#= 39;ll be testing today, I hope.

I won't be trying to update the = current lists, because the way the
code works is that it starts be deleting the list, which I suspect
you&#= 39;d rather I didn't, at least until I'm sure things work.

-= Robin

On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 07:46:46AM -0700, Jonathan Jo= nes wrote:
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0Out of curiosity, when can we expect to see= the items start
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0being uploaded, have you tested to se= e if you can upload to the
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0existing lesson, do you think it would be more likely to = be
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0possible if you had my Smart.fm user/pass, since I&= #39;m the
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0creator, and have you finished the workaroun= d for the audio
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0uploading?
>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 4:23 PM, Jonathan J= ones <[1]eyeonus@gmail.com><= br>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0wrote:
>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0I've finished checking it all. Here's the .tsv, I didn't = remove any of
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0the columns.
>
> =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 2:32 PM, Robin Lee Powell
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<[2]rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0No; I can process anything you throw at me= .
>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-Robin
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 02:27:53PM -0700, J= onathan Jones wrote:
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =C2=A0 =C2=A0T= he document I have has the following columns- cue,=C2=A0response,=C2=A0POS<= br>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =C2=A0 =C2=A0letter,=C2=A0.mp3 file= name, (original)=C2=A0order number. Do you want me to
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0delete
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&= gt; =C2=A0 =C2=A0any of those columns before I send it to you?
> =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =C2=A0 =C2=A0On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 12:30 PM,= Robin Lee Powell
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =C2=A0 =C2=A0<[1]= [3]rlpowell@digitalkingdom.o= rg> wrote:
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>
> =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 12:10:= 09PM -0700, Jonathan Jones wrote:
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =C2=A0 =C2=A0= =C2=A0Anything that can be done by a computer without too much
> =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0t= rouble, sohuld be. =EF=BF=BDIf you see regularities in what I
> =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0gave
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =C2=A0= =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0you that could be exploited to make = a better list
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =C2=A0 =C2=A0= =C2=A0automatically, you should be telling me about them.
> =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=EF=BF=BDSpending
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&g= t; =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0human time when computer ti= me will do is just silly.
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =C2=A0 =C2=A0= I did tell you about the most prevalent pattern: "a(n) ...
> =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =C2=A0 =C2=A0thing&qu= ot;, and the desired alteration: "something..."
> =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =C2=A0 =C2=A0= As in: "a drunk thing" -> "something drunk"
> = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>
> =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =C2=A0 =C2=A0Another thing I= 've seen a lot of is too many "e"s. As in
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0"a
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =C2=A0 =C2=A0useer", which I take to be = "a use-er" with the dash taken
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0out.
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =C2=A0 =C2= =A0And another one I mentioned: "an express commenter" -> &quo= t;an
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =C2=A0 =C2=A0= expresser of a=EF=BF=BDcomment"
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>= ; =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =C2=A0 =C2=A0however, "a ... standard" -> &q= uot;a standard of ..." ought to
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0be.= )
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>= ; =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0If =C2=A0you explained those, I missed it. =C2=A0If y= ou send me what you
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0have,
> =C2=A0= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I can do all that if you like= .
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-Robin
>= ; =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0--
> =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0They say: =C2=A0"The firs= t AIs will be built by the military as
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0w= eapons."
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0A= nd I'm =C2=A0thinking: =C2=A0"Does it even occur to you to try for=
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0something
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0other =C2=A0than =C2=A0the default =C2=A0outcom= e?" =C2=A0See
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0[2][4]http://shrunklink.com= /cdiz
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0[3][5= ]htt= p://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ ***
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0[4][6]http://www.lojban.org/
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>
> =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0To unsubscribe from this list, se= nd mail to
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0[5][7]lojban-list-requ= est@lojban.org
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= with the subject unsubscribe, or go to
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0[6][8]http:= //www.lojban.org/lsg2/,
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0or if
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0you're really = stuck, send mail to [7][9]secretary= @lojban.org
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0for help.
> =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =C2=A0 =C2= =A0--
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =C2=A0 =C2=A0mu'o mi'= e .aionys.
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =C2=A0 =C2=A0.i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denp= a bu
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>= ; References
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =C2=A0 =C2=A0Visible links
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =C2=A0 =C2=A01. mailto:[10]rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =C2=A0 =C2=A02. [11]http://shrunklink.com/cdiz
&g= t; =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =C2=A0 =C2=A03. [12]http://www.digitalkingdo= m.org/~rlpowell/
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =C2=A0 =C2=A04. [13]http://www.lojban.org/
> =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =C2=A0 =C2=A05. mailto:[14]lojban-list-request@lojban.org
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =C2=A0 =C2=A06. [15]http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/
= > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =C2=A0 =C2=A07. mailto:[16]secretary@lojban.org
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0--
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0They say: =C2=A0"The first AIs will be built by the milit= ary as weapons."
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