From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Mar 12 05:10:55 2010 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 12 Mar 2010 05:10:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Nq4di-0006tj-SK for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 05:10:55 -0800 Received: from mail-bw0-f219.google.com ([209.85.218.219]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Nq4da-0006ru-UN for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 05:10:50 -0800 Received: by bwz19 with SMTP id 19so1059824bwz.26 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 05:10:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=2NavMPeVMEa2sAwRMFe1vESY+8fMeA1jGQK7rVolR80=; b=L7NfgQ/IHgLx1Ej6vCuLKwYXhx0wNROof6rHeD4SyEFGb5E81rQT0d0A3feWF7D8KS VoZZ+0m3PbYrqPw+S5Ah+Sf+IJY4aOfjRH+S0AXj93PnQdHzY/Tsgku73qkCvFp2T9qE 8mJJ/O+m4zWVkefbhErN/zeDPY16RsKKsszKg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=IXCls9VyQHoV4yQVT9JUNxKMIcmA/xcp+xgrw30LHFDtlBBp2wIfyypZ+Fro0QUYAh Uec63ppd7B0u41v2UUgCL84oTCgrLuJKkyG/qIOqVDu1GYI7abazvZSfQQie2th/JXGf KrsIFQ3eujfl2ekmvp+yTN1SdNghyTqql7cv4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.132.131 with SMTP id b3mr5507652bkt.135.1268399437572; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 05:10:37 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:10:37 -0300 Message-ID: <925d17561003120510w5268cea2sdbf61cc89932839d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban] cusku - say or express? From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-list@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-archive-position: 17172 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 10:45 PM, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > As a minor point, I'm changing all the "cusku" keywords, because > "cusku" is any form of expression, and "say" implies talking (which > is tavla). "Say" is a better keyword for "cusku" than "express", because the x2 of cusku is a sign, not a meaning. You say "thank you", you express gratitude. You say "I'm happy", you express happiness. You say "WTF", you express surprise, incredulity, etc. You say the words, the signs; you express the meaning of those words, those signs. The difference between saying and talking is that you say words and you talk about things. So all three, say, talk and express, are different. All three can be done with sign language or in writing, as far as I understand. The most common form for all three is spoken language, but the main difference between them is their object, not the medium. mu'o mi'e xorxes To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.