From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Mar 12 10:25:28 2010 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:25:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Nq9Y7-0003ok-CG for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:25:27 -0800 Received: from mail-pw0-f53.google.com ([209.85.160.53]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Nq9Xz-0003ks-Qm for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:25:25 -0800 Received: by pwj3 with SMTP id 3so837756pwj.40 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:25:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=loNOqjrF6qJY3iIYkph2KOzrRv3i1MfrpGfanxaFMt8=; b=BEVi8ddmVM1pzKX7pClUA+tYp0qUhN0xqamsyb1/72nsBrIDeWCJ4rsukzGtIzG4/H 734wrJP+Dsl4sRweE3hv134ZuUkUhhrcMjNoPuXtiiVBzen7Pi3ngleEKnxfXrJ1OIaD RugOke6174e0KAqMO6jYa2NloA5j7d4nUHfvQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=ECg5la1Cdbm18dYHmaIfa2wDj8DVQCJbrXuxMOFwKLK2Dpk1bphS+bXg+pQjc82rH5 P8UxtBzuRBW86w0sJRIvpEfYE3cmH+8bDVvCEI5CRa6EO3BE0TU00d9R7HoThL+4eRZM 6hTwYdUJdEEFKNVGpEN4D3VxhsdvqiQbFqhcM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.249.24 with SMTP id w24mr2305wfh.175.1268418312379; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:25:12 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 13:25:12 -0500 Message-ID: <96f789a61003121025n3ae25baevab09a3d9a582dd6a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban] banzu From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban-list@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I note that in most dictionaries, the x1 of banzu is a object, while in the Spanish version it's an event. Frankly, I think it should be either one. For example, le vi cidja cu banzu lo za'i mi jmive and lo nu mi citka le vi cidja cu banzu lo za'i jmive should be roughly equivalent in meaning. If only one should be chosen, the event makes more sense, since one can always "tu'a" an object into an abstraction, but the reverse is not true. --gejyspa X-archive-position: 17183 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: mturniansky@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.