From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Mar 12 10:30:53 2010 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:30:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Nq9dM-0004Lp-Do for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:30:52 -0800 Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Nq9dK-0004Ko-Vj for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:30:51 -0800 Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:30:50 -0800 From: Robin Lee Powell To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: cusku - say or express? Message-ID: <20100312183050.GJ10385@digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <925d17561003120510w5268cea2sdbf61cc89932839d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <925d17561003120510w5268cea2sdbf61cc89932839d@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-archive-position: 17184 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 10:10:37AM -0300, Jorge Llambías wrote: > The difference between saying and talking is that you say words > and you talk about things. So all three, say, talk and express, > are different. All three can be done with sign language or in > writing, as far as I understand. That's not how I use the words. "say" and "talk" are pure synonyms, and mean spoken expression, "express" is medium-agnostic. Hence, since "cusku" has a "medium" place, it is "express" to me. If cusku is "say" and tavla is "talk", for flashcard memorization purposes, I'm going to confuse them a lot. I expect, but do not know, that other native speakers would have the same problem. For purposes other than flashcard memorization, it doesn't matter: the place structure speaks (hah!) for itself. -Robin -- They say: "The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons." And I'm thinking: "Does it even occur to you to try for something other than the default outcome?" See http://shrunklink.com/cdiz http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.