From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Mar 12 11:45:44 2010 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:45:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NqAnn-0007FX-C5 for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:45:43 -0800 Received: from mail-bw0-f219.google.com ([209.85.218.219]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NqAnf-0007AA-MX for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:45:42 -0800 Received: by bwz19 with SMTP id 19so1423318bwz.26 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:45:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=yaiboPZmGZxwNW5gRu+n9zUhBa+RUiV1ROBn0kblhtM=; b=gkDdeEI/BcUjH0cIgihGvAaDgUILeLORKeauW04gGVVxxAnynP5AIB/sLzNJWn03WK 5ihXR0XPzg3rpbaxOdFlbgTErYTaUvUv40HmfS8CpoV1Dh62XTYCsgjprNq/yd/wkxjT wc8nUy++2fwDxhjGgYyQhIdvHg1z+RYCsuGpg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=G2M/s3doTiSkKNrs4aFnB1A8HN4oeiXqrIH3ee2HJnfrC6KACoMzAqGerS7ASWyQgY ni0VOFij5AFz4k3AAAdERkPZBwLutLNP/nykEhRxpaDivS1LUh4TH3TkCy73h0+Prxpd tuDp+ZVjwYvib/tUPIoKKZ0LDDAg0cBZ3XwWI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.25.209 with SMTP id a17mr2057091bkc.104.1268423128812; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:45:28 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20100312192042.GN10385@digitalkingdom.org> References: <925d17561003120510w5268cea2sdbf61cc89932839d@mail.gmail.com> <20100312183050.GJ10385@digitalkingdom.org> <925d17561003121116t634e3b47xe5e4105e225ba491@mail.gmail.com> <20100312192042.GN10385@digitalkingdom.org> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:45:28 -0300 Message-ID: <925d17561003121145x53ade2a3sdf2c6d443cce8854@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban] Re: cusku - say or express? From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-list@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-archive-position: 17192 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > Again: without context, "say" and "talk" are too close for > flashcards; I can't keep them distinguished.  "express" will do well > enough; if you have a better suggestion, make it, but I *can* *not* > use "say" and "talk" as distinct keywords for flashcard purposes; > they're too close in my brain, and other people have said the same > thing. I can only say that "cusku" can never be translated as "express", and can always be translated as "say", so I don't see how "express" can be a better keyword, or indeed how any keyword would be better than "say", which is an almost perfect match. The exact same distinction between "say" and "talk" exists in Spanish between "decir" and "hablar", (or in French dire/parler, or in Esperanto diri/paroli, and I'm sure in lots of other languages) so I don't quite understand what you find so confusing about it. mu'o mi'e xorxes To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.