From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sun Mar 14 14:41:54 2010 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 14 Mar 2010 14:41:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NqvZK-0003Jt-G9 for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 14:41:54 -0700 Received: from mail-bw0-f219.google.com ([209.85.218.219]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NqvZF-0003JA-Kx for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 14:41:53 -0700 Received: by bwz19 with SMTP id 19so2818539bwz.26 for ; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 14:41:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=S7N0nWVRiq319bBDv6dfetKd6haVrWQGZ+erItRZXtI=; b=lMfxD6zIshYLP6pXEqDU2bMO7JPzZQLvvbPPoKwXS/Ygm3uinBCxxeP5KiEgb+eXHm PzNATkjwGBYEcRTjGDz8lBPhkguK3q2ocEVyhFlNQcP9H+WcLz4zzBhRVaZgwpo9qxv1 RwCnN52UWrHn+ytm3LOoOUSuPvWQz/azyt8gA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=GGU0rfX/G+rv26qQZm94uoUgJkD9h3Yh2cIeMu29QlLROpJ5WagpdE1x7i7hWW4oWs MfaeVuJABB6To+kxL5Ue9naSFsnFIth/mzfRqgbVzLKyQAt0yu4Tmz1BPYYgsj8+7wGg /n6tkUYDrOfu4ZZcwdlreZIkXH51+482DsXNw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.34.197 with SMTP id m5mr2999649bkd.20.1268602902894; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 14:41:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <702226df1003141432t2fe8bfc6j9fb44cdc026f8623@mail.gmail.com> References: <925d17561003120510w5268cea2sdbf61cc89932839d@mail.gmail.com> <1268429293.26304.3.camel@thomas> <121832.27670.qm@web50401.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <702226df1003131143l278d2c46lbdfcf548e0d172ff@mail.gmail.com> <925d17561003131226n5303477h1907741037570f1e@mail.gmail.com> <702226df1003140705o682e399ufcdea6c30c490066@mail.gmail.com> <925d17561003140757x45c83214ra3d26c5993ad2169@mail.gmail.com> <702226df1003141219k55701cf3nb0acb31afdcba21b@mail.gmail.com> <925d17561003141351t4ef5dc11r69e8ec60b5d55651@mail.gmail.com> <702226df1003141432t2fe8bfc6j9fb44cdc026f8623@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 18:41:42 -0300 Message-ID: <925d17561003141441w51949aa9h4554e8fd6ed8f28@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban] Re: cusku - say or express? From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-list@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-archive-position: 17238 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 6:32 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > > Alright, I see your point. How about "state"? I don't believe it's being > used, it doesn't have the "meaning" connotation of "express" nor the > "verbal" connotation of say. I would say "state" matches "xusra" better than "cusku". You don't state "hello!", you state a proposition. Why does the verbal connotation of "say" bother you so much, but the same verbal connotation of "talk" doesn't? Your reason for rejecting "say" is not the same as Robin's. Robin doesn't like it because to him "say" and "talk" are not sufficiently distinct without context. But your reason for rejecting "say" for "cusku" would also apply to using "talk" for "tavla". mu'o mi'e xorxes To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.