From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Mar 15 17:39:54 2010 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 15 Mar 2010 17:39:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NrKp7-0000na-GS for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 17:39:54 -0700 Received: from n8.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com ([76.13.13.236]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NrKou-0000kx-SW for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 17:39:46 -0700 Received: from [76.13.13.25] by n8.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Mar 2010 00:39:31 -0000 Received: from [68.142.237.90] by t4.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Mar 2010 00:39:31 -0000 Received: from [66.196.97.153] by t6.bullet.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Mar 2010 00:39:31 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp206.mail.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Mar 2010 00:39:31 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 485513.17709.bm@omp206.mail.re3.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 89992 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Mar 2010 00:39:31 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rogers.com; s=s1024; t=1268699971; bh=5l9EvOqFrrNj6u9Pb5ibvLwOFZWOY1vPpiuHMlQcktM=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=pDylOdRlcsLEf/hRwn94ZDxaUKAE9v3ErGXM9L/bjocjAnVjF2wEn7qM6R45ybByW713kJzg58y9+bvsXLQTXIr90gJEgrKxPJW/wXDw+2iEN+mZmJV72Y73YavMclX4uDzqSuuHjwALsAL5CPFLG20Yll2xNh+zhCToGCsgUZM= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=3A4BdDjSJZb7VstTJM+QVwRFgzSaKQ29AIesEjZKa+VkcEEuO/KhJg3tlpyMM2ih3daKudTARaMcGcrBLBL5VdLbfFoiwuIJCbEOUG/k/Gw+gl8ZuCmAOfQWjDF0L07zVDSpu3Wp9h3VvOjF+Ts9WCWyI17n/NG6RN9Gqf6XC40=; Message-ID: <386172.89756.qm@web88001.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: Vemb8EAVM1nk2w3VPC4loQ8TlOJ46h6rwx1KY6Pg7.ovEBr oHrtfHcXTVsuN5F2.g4065Uc50I0VhpAwTtoTXdWtJqDvXozW2TghghthvtX M.6dJHPPtmqCel.X6Ihee12MmoHU_JAMHlMZEH61yrfSCJeZ0M2a.P0UknjV c348gJRSFRW.EbccTAIuU_sntDG8Re9g8dX0PlmLL2dySQjXvL.elab8ekEc gQYeCKUHLWXhndXxiecGlCbu9Tb6pWEK881mp3aFaCf8UF.fh5eKrOpwNKRu J3j_IOiSqNrIdJkN7xRG8hdOa Received: from [99.229.170.85] by web88001.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 17:39:31 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/324.3 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 References: Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 17:39:31 -0700 (PDT) From: "A. PIEKARSKI" Subject: [lojban] Re: Lojbanising words? To: lojban-list@lojban.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-archive-position: 17259 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: totus@rogers.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list Hello, and welcome to lojbanistan! There are various acceptable approaches.  For geographical entites, I prefer to lojbanize its offficial name i.e. in the language of of its country.  So, Athens would be http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/dict/atinas, based on the Greek Αθήνα, Athina.   In this approach, 'Canada' being a bilingual country, has two acceptable pronunciations: kenyDAS and KEnydys. 'São Paulo' requires a compromise i.e. lojbanizing as closely as possible: http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/dict/saupaulos   There is no justification for basing names on their English pronunciation unless English is si the local language .   totus ----- Original Message ---- > From: CQuake > To: lojban-list@lojban.org > Sent: Mon, March 15, 2010 4:27:06 PM > Subject: [lojban] Lojbanising words? > > Lojbanising words? Author: CQuake Hello, all, first of all, > let me introduce myself: I'm Sabrina, Brazilian woman which is actually living > in the heart of the green heart of Austria: the tiny and beautiful city of Graz. > Pleasure to meet you! =) Actually I'm learning Lojban via Lojban for > Beginners, and I (already) have a doubt, about lojbanising words: Athens > - Athina, for instance, becomes .atinas. In Portuguese we use to say A-TEH-nas, > and in Italian, A-TEH-ne. So how should I lojbanise these words? Does it exist a > sort of common rule? Thank you, > guys. Ciao, Sabrina. To unsubscribe from this list, > send mail to > href="mailto:lojban-list-request@lojban.org">lojban-list-request@lojban.org with > the subject unsubscribe, or go to > target=_blank >http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, > send mail to > href="mailto:secretary@lojban.org">secretary@lojban.org for help. To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.