From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Mar 16 04:29:34 2010 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 16 Mar 2010 04:29:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NrUxp-0001y1-E5 for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 04:29:33 -0700 Received: from n6.bullet.re3.yahoo.com ([68.142.237.91]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NrUxa-0001uF-0G for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 04:29:24 -0700 Received: from [68.142.237.89] by n6.bullet.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Mar 2010 11:29:10 -0000 Received: from [66.196.97.142] by t5.bullet.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Mar 2010 11:29:10 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp110.mail.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Mar 2010 11:29:10 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 574903.81342.bm@omp110.mail.re3.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 17348 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Mar 2010 11:29:10 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rogers.com; s=s1024; t=1268738950; bh=AmFDT3Y+yjL3k/IkH/+AddGz5NYCFYwLWWme7KBMCak=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=b2ZtRhIfHu6I06hRxapLtQaO0ct7Kpwhkz/2WrtukAFjOREHxa1qKpMSgE/h6XAGgZWoNbbXq8MI35UdiyNjkue5FkguXo9CmiNqaPpNXp1eufMbAtu1/yKSckguPplHzPZKDlPJYjP3XuChycUA+qNYysMi9obThKbvWwqesuc= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=BGxWBQDR1x7AUqHbWIo2fksKv85MA1dqngDrS/2lOcH9P0T9YoPluPRVTSDJLRP6pnRf48ISqhyYf1EAJEvrf13GC72IpI3zgikFQR3eVJqS2zdG3wnfSEJcsY9Kv9mkUzPjCd27mlRR4TP0tdKtvNHZJMY6hbIVSSyAapP394E=; Message-ID: <446046.14939.qm@web88001.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 3JpC478VM1lZWCfWXy.JDvlSOZzrZ3_n6enm7Q3.DIJKDnu 8mqu4cqgU5xa2CG_BzX4kDLp.W.l9r7vYWfXfD81XlTnLO6XVC9b9jns_X06 WHldxho8GKkyVyarXrnvJmsPfGrcjhTqDlCnWgCKB804hk9LeQv23eN0hRVx 1YbkU8HRGZrRwaPLgAE1YUEQLCO.RVmOcZ8XK2e.y4O5s6XffWv8Px4Ulid6 Bgs6ow.8q40SvQ8R9ID3oL5vJG_uiFp6WVid6U7R7ZRMAFepdED2aQfsXSvw fNs78OdaG8nCcsf_BxjqOo_8tMGtBU4aTywalByHZwepuBB5pkK41 Received: from [99.229.170.85] by web88001.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 04:29:10 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/324.3 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 References: <386172.89756.qm@web88001.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <5715b9301003152013m2519e4a5keb0c1779120a97ec@mail.gmail.com> <342873.67121.qm@web50406.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 04:29:10 -0700 (PDT) From: "A. PIEKARSKI" Subject: [lojban] Re: Lojbanising words? To: lojban-list@lojban.org In-Reply-To: <342873.67121.qm@web50406.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-archive-position: 17262 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: totus@rogers.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list   ----- Original Message ---- > From: Lindar Greenwood > To: lojban-list@lojban.org > Sent: Tue, March 16, 2010 3:05:20 AM > Subject: [lojban] Re: Lojbanising words? > > >> There is no justification for basing names on their English > pronunciation unless >> English is si the local language > . > >I don't get "... unless English the local language."  > :-p Hah, I totally read it that way, too. Sorry.  What I meant was that, taking cities as an example, you would lojbanize the names of those cities as pronounced by their inhabitants (i.e. the local language).  That's fairer and more 'neutral' than using their English names even though more people around the world may recognize the English name. So the lojban name for India's largest city should be based on Mumbai even though more people around the world would still recognize Bombay. totus   To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to > ymailto="mailto:lojban-list-request@lojban.org" > href="mailto:lojban-list-request@lojban.org">lojban-list-request@lojban.org with > the subject unsubscribe, or go to > target=_blank >http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, > send mail to > href="mailto:secretary@lojban.org">secretary@lojban.org for help. To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.