From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Mar 19 09:17:56 2010 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 19 Mar 2010 09:17:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NsetX-0004H2-B2 for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 09:17:55 -0700 Received: from mail-wy0-f181.google.com ([74.125.82.181]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NsetP-0004GF-VI for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 09:17:54 -0700 Received: by wyf28 with SMTP id 28so1565183wyf.40 for ; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 09:17:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=uyoObtgwfnO5CN1cnKPK1WNQkyjmbqO1gVOkzF0vwUI=; b=Qz+gfK/P0wOjVSfec3kFzkC86Jqb5fGerkRSea5shYyoJhmq/3wrmci3NodK8E35z5 AlCzCjwjv0drnHZH9QMSAU4mAWLbAmEZPQwRD/qECjfJcMsxhaPfIqFvniQ4mg2SYuW/ l2NEN88WONnoJpKq8VYYQxbIKh70VMF4hD9Tc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=tMyO2tqwIJktl+73z1BBIRf8+aCoLODHobUj5Ys2yDtDMcMldOoWS+1dsdagWuORmM QgR3L/Ly9x4RnK8qsFmFv71cQlbQ3sQXQGbtTdpEszfHfFuWOO8eBsysfsEZf0PCNUyq XGu8RoB8tLzgLhs9TmXPvmVTUm59Df0R4DJgA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.93.73 with SMTP id k51mr498026wef.187.1269015461054; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 09:17:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100319155726.GH25330@digitalkingdom.org> References: <702226df1003110646l1d8ab798y92984424ede3f350@mail.gmail.com> <702226df1003111235u2ddca307t6c5cdf3942248c7e@mail.gmail.com> <20100312014525.GG10385@digitalkingdom.org> <27513e551003111804k14914cc7h1a95e79b39bb476f@mail.gmail.com> <20100312022636.GI10385@digitalkingdom.org> <702226df1003120739o2d1219e4o66e9ff6cfe24874f@mail.gmail.com> <20100318204618.GW25330@digitalkingdom.org> <20100318210007.GX25330@digitalkingdom.org> <702226df1003190641j11668baay953af20149c65d94@mail.gmail.com> <20100319155726.GH25330@digitalkingdom.org> Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 10:17:40 -0600 Message-ID: <702226df1003190917y22178978na33d617da81eb618@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban] Re: mass-uploading? From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban-list@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d7e040c54955048229af77 X-archive-position: 17317 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: eyeonus@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list --0016e6d7e040c54955048229af77 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Robin Lee Powell < rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote: > On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 07:41:17AM -0600, Jonathan Jones wrote: > > > What about cmavo? =EF=BF=BDJust take the definitions as they cur= rently are > > > in the list? > > > > Still open. > > > > You could do that, certainly. It'd be nice to have individual > > entries for each point on the scale for scalar cmavo (i.e. > > {.ui}, {.uicai}, {.uinai}, eic.), but I think that it'd be too > > cumbersome to do that, > > Well, {.ui} and {.uinai} are in the list already. The sai/cai/ru'e > versions aren't, and that seems too many extra words to me. > > > and learners more than likely could figure it out. In short, I > > think a striaght one to one transfer from the cmavo list would be > > fine. > > Coo'. > > > The only (big) question in my mind is, how to order them? > > Alphabetical is certainly not the way to do it, but both selma'o > > order and usage order have their points. > > I don't see any advantage to selma'o order for flashcards at all; > usage order is best for people trying to memorize vocabulary. Well, for flashcards, maybe not. > -Robin > > -- > They say: "The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons." > And I'm thinking: "Does it even occur to you to try for something > other than the default outcome?" See http://shrunklink.com/cdiz > http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.or= g > with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if > you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help. > > --=20 mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu --0016e6d7e040c54955048229af77 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Robin Lee Powel= l <rlpo= well@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 07:41:17AM -0600, Jonathan Jones = wrote:
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> What about cmavo? =EF=BF=BDJust tak= e the definitions as they currently are
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> in= the list?
>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Still open.
>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0You could do that, certainly. It'd be nice to= have individual
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0entries for each point on the scale f= or scalar cmavo (i.e.
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0{.ui}, {.uicai}, {.uinai}, eic.)= , but I think that it'd be too
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0cumbersome to do that,

Well, {.ui} and {.uin= ai} are in the list already. =C2=A0The sai/cai/ru'e
versions aren= 9;t, and that seems too many extra words to me.

> and learners more than likely could figure it ou= t. In short, I
> think a striaght one to one transfer from the cmavo = list would be
> fine.

Coo'.

> The only (big) question in my mind is, how to or= der them?
> Alphabetical is certainly not the way to do it, but both = selma'o
> order and usage order have their points.

I don't see any advantage to selma'o order for flashcards at all;usage order is best for people trying to memorize vocabulary.
=C2=A0
Well, for flashcards, maybe not.
=C2=A0
-Robin

--
They say: =C2=A0"The first AIs w= ill be built by the military as weapons."
And I'm =C2=A0thinkin= g: =C2=A0"Does it even occur to you to try for something
other =C2= =A0than =C2=A0the default =C2=A0outcome?" =C2=A0See http://shrunklink.com/cdiz
http= ://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/


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