Return-Path: Received: from rutgers.edu by cs.nyu.edu (3.2/25-eef) id AA15353; Fri, 8 Dec 89 18:07:56 EST Received: from bpa.UUCP by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.2/3.04) with UUCP id AA29940; Fri, 8 Dec 89 18:06:06 EST Received: by bpa.bell-atl.com (Smail3.1.17.5) id ; Fri, 8 Dec 89 17:10 EST Received: by vu-vlsi.Villanova.EDU (5.51/smail2.5/03-15-88) id AA26660; Thu, 7 Dec 89 16:01:22 EST Received: by snark.uu.net (smail2.3) id AA14725; 7 Dec 89 15:19:38 EST (Thu) To: snark!lojban-list@uunet.uu.net Subject: A challenge for the list Date: 7 Dec 89 15:19:38 EST (Thu) From: eric@snark.uu.net Message-Id: <8912071519.AA14725@snark.uu.net> Status: RO X-From-Space-Date: Fri Dec 8 18:08:02 1989 X-From-Space-Address: snark!eric@uunet.uu.net Almost all those currently on the Lojban-list have acknowledged to the list-request or my personal address. The two I am still missing are Liz Highleyman and lojbab himself. Bob LeChevalier's list access is likely to be sporadic. His personal box is a Mess-Dos machine, and he is (unfortunately) a long-distance call from the nearest regular net access he's been able to promote, which is me. If any of you lives in northern VA and has a UNIX box, or knows a kindly sort who does, please help. Yes, this list is appropriate for postings *in* Lojban. I encourage them. We all need the practice! Beyond this, I have a challenge for the group. Let's develop some experience in tanru construction by developing a Lojban technical vocabulary for use in computing. I'll open the ball with sambau computer language This is a simple, elegant tanru (`computer type of language' => sam + ban). But what should its place structure be? What sumti should it take? Another one: samymri electronic-mail ... to ... from ... by carrier ... (the tanru is `computer type of mail'). Yet another samjulne computer network for purpose ... using carrier ... (An unreduced lujvo...would the reduced form be better?). Here's a trickier question. How should lojban express the difference between `algorithm' and `program'? And should the obvious tanru `machine method' be used for either or does it really correspond to English `automation'? Other terms for which it would be interesting to develop lujvo include `compiler', `interpreter', `executable', `file', `operating system', `main memory' and `mass storage'. You can doubtless add 50 of your own. It might help if you adopt as a goal being able to describe the environment you post from precisely in Lojban. Let's see some discussion on this. And...what about a lujvo for `electron ic mailing list'? >>eric>> eric@snark.uu.net = eric%snark@uunet.uu.net --> Eric S. Raymond