Date: Fri, 20 Apr 90 00:02:15 EDT
From: "Keith F. Lynch" <mintaka.lcs.mit.edu!KFL>
Subject: AMRAD BBS
To: riacs!lll-winken!dsinc!phlsun!bpa!snark!lojban-list
Message-Id: <723212.900420.KFL@AI.AI.MIT.EDU>
Status: RO

Here's material from the Lojban area on the AMRAD BBS, 703-734-1387,
PC Pursuitable.  I will forward all material from there to here
and vice-versa, to try and restart both conversations and improve
connectivity.  I should be up to date in both directions within a
week or two, as volume has been very low in both places.

Date: 03-28-88 (01:21)  Number: 1
  To: ALL
From: BOB LECHEVALIER
Subj: INTRO TO LOGLAN

Hello to anyone reading this conference.  I'm Bob Lechevalier, and I'm
the one the Bulletin says to contact about Loglan.  Lawrence Kasteloot
has set up this conference so that all of you can find out what Loglan
is about.  We also have another washington DC area BBS dedicated to
Loglan - though some people are experiencing difficulty downloading
and uploading.

Actually, there isn't a lot to say that isn't in the bulletin - which is
why I wrote it.  We have over 300 subscribers to a regular newsletter.
While we ask for money, it isn't necessary, subject to my continuing to
be able to foot the bill.  We want new people to join.

If you want to find out more about Loglan before contacting me, read
Scientific American Jun 1960, or Dave Cortesi's column in Dr. Dobbs
Journal Spt 1982.

There is some dispute over the use of the name Loglan, so you will
likely be seeing the name Lojban replace it on this BBS.  Lojban is the
name of the latest implementation of Loglan.  It is fully in the public
domain, and we maximize access to all materials.

There are older forms of Loglan, which the inventor of the language is
trying to restrict in various ways.  The latest was to trademark the
name of the language - which he suceeded in doing as of next April 12,
though we will be challenging it.

So expect to see Lojban replace Loglan in this conference.  We are
not in anyway claiming to represent The Loglan Institute, Inc. of
Gainesville FL, which is the language inventor's organization.
This BBS likewise has no connection with that organization.

The foregoing is my making sure that there is no confusion that could
lead to this BBS being questioned by the Loglan Institute, inc.
Lawrence is doing us a favor by making our info available to you.

Oh, by the way.  By phone number is 703 -385 -0273 (home) if anyone
has any questions.  We welcome your contact, and hope you will be
interested in finding out more.

I will check this BBS about weekly, at least for now, if you wish to
leave questions on line.

Thanx.

Date: 04-13-88 (15:39)  Number: 3
  To: ALL
From: CRAIG ALTENBURG
Subj: PRONUNCIATION

It there a lojban pronunciation guide available.  If so, how can I get
a copy.

Date: 04-14-88 (15:17)  Number: 4
  To: CRAIG ALTENBURG   Refer#: 3
From: SYSOP
Subj: PRONUNCIATION

Yes, there is a lojban pronounciation guide.  If you send the form in
bulletin number one to Bob, he will send you all of the necessary
information.

Date: 10-10-88 (07:55)  Number: 14
  To: JERRY SHIFRIN     Refer#: 12
From: CLAUDE VANHORN
Subj: LOGPRIMS.ARC

The file always fails the CRC check.  I think you will find that it is
complate and works FINE!!  Don't know why it fails.

Date: 10-10-88 (08:00)  Number: 15
  To: BRYAN MARTIN
From: CLAUDE VANHORN
Subj: MESSAGE

Hi!!  when you sent mail to me, you put a group password on it and
I don't have the password to read it.  I think you can change the
security, or maybe re-type the message if it is still in time.  If it
was relating to my accident with the Logflash disk, all is O.K. now.

Bye!!
VAN!!

Date: 01-05-89 (04:16)  Number: 28
  To: BOB ET AL.
From: THOMAS EDWARDS
Subj: TO LEARN LOJBAN

I've been getting ju'i lobypli since Evecon 5 (check is in the mail
soon) yet somehow I can't quite glean how to use the language.
Does the Scientific American article provide enough basis to begin
to learn the grammar, or have I just been missing the entire thing?
What should I do?

I assume the teaching package will be suitable for what I need,
but when and at what price will it be available?

Date: 01-18-89 (13:17)  Number: 32
  To: THOMAS EDWARDS    Refer#: 28
From: BOB LECHEVALIER
Subj: TO LEARN LOJBAN

The SA article is very much lacking, which is why no one ever learned
the language.  I'd hoped that some of the material in JL was being
helpful to people, but I have not been emphasizing the grammar except
to teach it by example.  We will be putting more of the grammar in the
later issues of JL.

I can't say the price of the teaching package, and it will depend on
whether you use Logflash or flashcards to learn the vocabulary, et. al.
The first time around it will be more expensive due to the limited
production runs, which is unfortunate.  But our finances don't allow
us to over order.

I've been trying to reach you Thomas, re the class.  But my phone# for
you seems to be invalid.  The class will start 29 January at my place
near the Vienna Metro station, and run from 7PM-1015PM, or thereabouts.
Call me sometime if I can't reach you at work before you see this.
(703-385-0273).

Date: 08-04-89 (04:28)  Number: 44
  To: ALL
From: BOB LECHEVALIER
Subj: USE OF THIS BOARD

I haven't been checking this board too often due to its lack of
activity, but I do check occassionally.  If you leave me a message,
then I'll know you've been looking, and will start checking more often,
and putting news on here, discussions of items of possible interest,
etc.  But, I can't take this time if no one is reading it.  There is
much news of interest; it appears quarterly in le lojbo karni and Ju'i
Lobypli, which you can get if you register with me.  We also have a
long list of publications available, which I'll send on request.

I'd like this BBS to be a forum for your comments on the stuff we
publish and for questions about Lojban, Loglan, and related matters.
There are a lot of possible topics, but I need to know who is
interested in what.

Let me hear from you.

Date: 09-15-89 (22:18)  Number: 51
  To: ELLEN CASWELL     Refer#: 45
From: BOB LECHEVALIER
Subj: INTRO TO LOGLAN

Ellen, sorry I took so long to reply.  I was with athelstan at world
science fiction convention.  I need an address or phone number from
you, though I'll check with athelstan to see if he has it.

Date: 09-15-89 (22:22)  Number: 52
  To: JOHN RAYNOR       Refer#: 47
From: BOB LECHEVALIER
Subj: LOGFLASH

We have a lot of materials, including MAC Lojflash, available.  I need
a name and address to send you further info.  if this board continues
to be actively used, I'll put more stuff up on line.  I haven't been
doing so, because many of the materials are under develoipment and thus
get changed from time to time.  I want to know who has what versions,
especially when I get questions on the materials.  Anyone who registers
will get a complete list of materials we are offering, which we update
at least quarterly.