Return-Path: Resent-From: cbmvax!uunet!PICA.ARMY.MIL!protin Resent-Message-Id: <9106192211.AA23276@relay1.UU.NET> 27 May 90 16:52 EDT From: cbmvax!uunet!math.ucla.edu!jimc Return-Path: Message-Id: <9005271827.AA01251@julia.math.ucla.edu> To: lojban-list@snark Subject: Re: CHANGE TO GISMU BASELINE (agree) In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 24 May 90 11:58:48 EDT." Date: Sun, 27 May 90 11:27:54 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Jun 91 18:09:35 EDT Resent-To: John Cowan Status: RO X-From-Space-Date: Wed Jun 19 19:49:35 1991 X-From-Space-Address: cbmvax!uunet!PICA.ARMY.MIL!protin > Date: Thu, 24 May 90 11:58:48 EDT > To: lojban-list%snark@uunet.UU.NET > From: cowan@marob.masa.com (John Cowan) > Subject: PROPOSED CHANGE TO GISMU BASELINE -- PLEASE READ & RESPOND! > 1) Change the keyword for "tanru" from "metaphor" to "open compound". > 2) Change the keyword for "lujvo" from "compound bridi" to "closed compound". I agree. JCB used the term "metaphor" from the beginning, but I have always found this terminology confusing. I have always felt a clear distinction between a tanru and a "true metaphor", as in "chick" to mean "nubile woman" (from the recent "bad writing" sample); for me, this distinction is made more strong by the rules I claim to be able to see and use in existing lujvo, so as to determine uniquely their meanings and to make new tanru and unofficial lujvo that listeners supposedly can understand. -- Jim Carter