Return-Path: Received: by marob.masa.com (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.7) id ; Wed, 30 May 90 22:36 EDT Received: by wetblu.hollander.com (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.16.1 #16.12) id ; Wed, 30 May 90 21:39 EDT Received: from cbmvax.UUCP by uunet.uu.net (5.61/1.14) with UUCP id AA15497; Wed, 30 May 90 08:47:09 -0400 Received: by cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (5.57/UUCP-Project/Commodore Jan 13 1990) id AA26710; Wed, 30 May 90 07:41:12 EDT Received: by snark.uu.net (smail2.3) id AA13917; 30 May 90 05:49:38 EDT (Wed) To: lojban-list Subject: help wanted Date: 30 May 90 05:49:38 EDT (Wed) From: wetblu!uunet!cbmvax!snark.uu.net!lojbab Message-Id: <9005300549.AA13917@snark.uu.net> Status: RO X-From-Space-Date: Wed May 30 22:36:34 1990 X-From-Space-Address: wetblu!uunet!cbmvax!snark!lojbab I'm looking for someone who knows Arabic to help in making a few proposed gismu. If you or someone you know is willing to help out, it would be much appreciated. We will have somewhere around 15 words that we need 'lojbanized phonetic' transcriptions of the Arabic for, so for someone who knows Arabic, this could take an hour or less. I am also looking for an Esperantist, who can tell me the words for 'morning' andfor 'arm', and who knows the language well enough, or can check a few dictionaries to tell me whether these words are defined the way they are in English. By way of explanation, in some languages, the arm includes the hand, in others not. In some, the 'hand' goes all the way to the elbow. For morning, in German, 'morning' is not properly used after about 10am, and in Sweden after abaout 6am. Other words of distinct meaning are used after this point (such as 'forenoon", etc.). The obvious question is how an 'international language' such as Esperanto deals with choosing a meaning for its concept, or whether the question is even addressed (if not - so much for cultural neutrality - or for good communications) in dictionaries. I need the answer before LogFest, as it will affect discussions of gismu proposals and dictionary planning. -thanx -lojbab