From wetblu!uunet!cbmvax!snark!lojbab Sun Jun 3 07:47:55 1990 Return-Path: Received: by marob.masa.com (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.7) id ; Sun, 3 Jun 90 07:47 EDT Received: by wetblu.hollander.com (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.16.1 #16.12) id ; Sun, 3 Jun 90 07:19 EDT Received: from cbmvax.UUCP by uunet.uu.net (5.61/1.14) with UUCP id AA17916; Sun, 3 Jun 90 05:56:11 -0400 Received: by cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (5.57/UUCP-Project/Commodore Jan 13 1990) id AA15284; Sun, 3 Jun 90 05:37:20 EDT Received: by snark.uu.net (smail2.3) id AA23463; 3 Jun 90 04:19:58 EDT (Sun) To: lojban-list Subject: responding to Guy Steele on tanru Date: 3 Jun 90 04:19:58 EDT (Sun) From: wetblu!uunet!cbmvax!snark.uu.net!lojbab Message-Id: <9006030419.AA23463@snark.uu.net> Status: RO Guy is probably somewhat correct on what will 'really happen', but we hope that there will be a little less figurative, and more analytic in the metaphors. Remebering that a lujvo formed from 'blanu zdani' (lanzda) will have a single meaning and place structure. (zdani, by the way, covers nest/den/house) The tanru blanu zdani also has a specific place struture - that of 'zdani'. Any metaphorical usage inconsisent with this place structure will be invalid. In addition, the 'blanu' component also has a place structure, which clearly indicates that it covers things that exhibit the color blue. Things that do not exhibit the color blue are invalid, as well as things associated with blue as a result of a cultural tie, but which are not really blue. The ambiguity of tanru lies in the many ways that the first term can 'modify' or 'specify' the second term. These ways,a re however limited. --lojbab