Return-Path: Received: by marob.masa.com (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.1) id ; Fri, 26 Oct 90 02:33 EDT Received: by hombre.MASA.COM (smail2.5) id AA15680; 25 Oct 90 23:50:19 EDT (Thu) Received: from cbmvax.UUCP by uunet.uu.net (5.61/1.14) with UUCP id AA25343; Thu, 25 Oct 90 05:51:22 -0400 Received: by cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (5.57/UUCP-Project/Commodore Jan 13 1990) id AA03970; Thu, 25 Oct 90 04:30:15 EDT Received: by snark.thyrsus.com (smail2.3) id AA01368; 25 Oct 90 03:34:53 EDT (Thu) To: cowan@marob.masa.com, foote@cs.berkeley.edu Subject: time flies Date: 25 Oct 90 03:34:53 EDT (Thu) From: uunet!cbmvax!snark.thyrsus.com!lojbab Message-Id: <9010250334.AA01368@snark.thyrsus.com> Status: RO X-From-Space-Date: Fri Oct 26 02:33:35 1990 X-From-Space-Address: hombre!uunet!cbmvax!snark!lojbab re yours: >I sincerely doubt that I could have had this much fun in Logban. That's Lojban, and you could have had much more fun. I'll stay away from 'time flies', though, which relies more on grammatical ambiguity than semantic (we could play with it too, but it would take me too long to explain). Instead, take the "plastic cat food can cover" that was discussed a feww weeks ago during the Lojban discussion. My math is kinda hazy at this time of nite but I think there are some 120 interpretations using just the grammatical elements mentioned by John Cowan in his response (logical and and simple left- or right- grouping). The poser of the problem posted just 9 English samples as his appraent guess as to the range of English interpretations. Care to try for the other 111, (and explanations thereof). For a (MUCH) simpler example that is important to the history of Loglan/Lojban try "pretty little girls school". James Cooke Brown, inventor of Loglan posited 17 meanings in his 1975 >Loglan 1<, claiming that English could render only about a half-dozen different ones easily, and perhaps 10 with great strain. The Loglan community increased this to 18 within a year or two, and by the time thorough analysis was completed about another 5 years later, the { I am not posting this to sci.lang directly, since I don't know how, and the point is of course rather too minor to bother my circuitous relay for posting since I didn't read your message till a week too late as it was. --lojbab = Bob LeChevalier President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. lojbab@snark.thyrsus.com