Return-Path: Received: by marob.masa.com (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.1) id ; Mon, 29 Oct 90 07:36 EST Received: by hombre.MASA.COM (smail2.5) id AA20944; 29 Oct 90 03:45:41 EST (Mon) Received: from cbmvax.UUCP by uunet.uu.net (5.61/1.14) with UUCP id AA02591; Sun, 28 Oct 90 06:03:29 -0500 Received: by cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (5.57/UUCP-Project/Commodore Jan 13 1990) id AA15339; Sun, 28 Oct 90 02:00:53 EST Received: by snark.thyrsus.com (smail2.3) id AA08695; 28 Oct 90 01:16:34 EST (Sun) To: cowan@marob.masa.com Subject: copy of message sent to Zwicky FYI Date: 28 Oct 90 01:16:34 EST (Sun) From: uunet!cbmvax!snark.thyrsus.com!lojbab Message-Id: <9010280116.AA08695@snark.thyrsus.com> Status: RO X-From-Space-Date: Mon Oct 29 07:36:18 1990 X-From-Space-Address: hombre!uunet!cbmvax!snark!lojbab $ mailx zwicky@csli.stanford.edu Subject: Lojban and Loglan I recognized your name on your recent posting re universals. You are 'noted' in Loglan/Lojban history for your 1969 review of Brown's Loglan 1, dealing with its failings in linguistic theory. I believe that Brown has never answered your essay, nor the questions it raised, nor did anyone else ever do so. Since we are trying to 'resurrect' some scientific respectibility for the Loglan project, I was wondering if you, or anyone else you could recommend might be interested in reviewing our current efforts on the basis of the issues raised in your 1969 review, and on any others that you think might be pertinent today. I think our linguistic sophistication is more up to a defense these days even if we are not yet at the point of publishing. (Brown republished Loglan 1 in 1975, and again in 1989, but did not directly address you issues. He has long indicated an intent to respond, but I think given 20 years delay, that is a bit too long for a public forum.) I note, in case you haven;t followed the recent discussion of Lojban, that we are NOT connected in any way with Brown, and that he has pretty much rejected cooperation with us. However, I have excellent sources on both archival history of the project, and with leaders other than Brown, especially during the last 15 years. I hope you might offer suggestions on this issue, or consider reviewing us yourself if you have time and interest (though I'm sure you have lots of more important work in progress) Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. 2904 Beau Lane Fairfax VA 22031-1303 703-385-0273 lojbab@snark.thyrsus.com