Return-Path: Date: Tue, 11 Jun 91 14:16:33 EDT From: "Arthur W. Protin Jr." (GC-ACCURATE) To: lojban-list@snark.thyrsus.com Subject: Re: xebro Message-Id: <9106111416.aa15213@COR4.PICA.ARMY.MIL> Status: RO X-From-Space-Date: Tue Jun 11 17:31:03 1991 X-From-Space-Address: cbmvax!uunet!PICA.ARMY.MIL!protin Folks, (I don't remember if I already responded to this thread, but what the heck, why should that stop me from being obnoxious.) I think Mark Shoulson really hit the nail on the head. All the names of God are names! Gismu are predicates that express relations. I only have need in this language for gismu that describe the properties of these "super" beings. As of now I only have a clear understanding of one descriptor and am aware that at least one more is need for descriptions that I do not well understand. The one I understand is for an omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, creator of the entirety of what I can sense directly or indirectly who may or may not have a personality as we understand it. Clearly there needs to be words to describe the role of other "guiding influences". But clearly JHVH is a name, not a descriptor, not a predicate. I might accept xriso as the word for messiah as long as it is clear that that the definition does not refer to any one instance. I expect that we are free to read "le xriso" as a reference to Emperor Hili Salasi (I'm not sure of the spelling) or someone for whom we have waited for centuries and for we will continue to wait. thank you all, AP Arthur Protin These are my personal views and do not reflect those of my boss or this installation.