Return-Path: Message-Id: Date: Sat, 24 Aug 91 02:09 EDT From: lojbab (Bob LeChevalier) To: lojban-list Subject: *diklujvo Status: RO X-From-Space-Date: Sat Aug 24 02:09:35 1991 X-From-Space-Address: lojbab Nora noticed when I was preparing JL15 that *diklujvo is not a legal Lojban word. It fails what is called the 'Tosmabru test', which is described in the Synopsis for those who have it (and will be in with the rafsi list for new level 1's and above after the beginning of July). Remembering that Lojban is supposed to have a uniquely r4esolvable sound speech-stream, the "Tosmabru" test verifies against a lujvo breaking up into 2 or more words. "Tosmabru" itself (an old-Loglan word proposal) breaks up, and hence is the archetype, even though it is not currently a possible proposed word in Lojban. Such breakup occurs when you have a CVC rafsi on the beginning of a variety of strings of rafsi, such that all consonant clusters up to the first 'y' hyphen or the end of the word are all permissible initials. In the simplest case, a word like "Tosmabru" or "diklujvo", a CVC + CVCCV breaks up into a CV + CCVCCV word. Thus "diklujvo" in a Lojban speech stream is the sentence "di klujvo" something x3 is a cultural-lujvo. The solution to a "Tosmabru word is to insert a mandatory 'y' hyphen at the first rafsi junction, at which point there cannot be a breakup. Thus the correct form of jimc's oft-used word is "dikylujvo", or using the shorter rafsi, "dikyjvo". The only real way to learn this test is to make lots of lujvo until it gets ingrained. I still stumble, but Nora checks everything. lojbab