Return-Path: Message-Id: <9110292159.AA07497@relay1.UU.NET> Date: Tue Oct 29 20:39:42 1991 Reply-To: John Cowan Sender: Lojban list From: John Cowan Subject: Re: buffer vowel X-To: lojban To: John Cowan , Eric Raymond , Eric Tiedemann In-Reply-To: <9110282040.AA29917@relay1.UU.NET>; from "And Rosta" at Oct 28, 91 8:35 pm Status: RO X-From-Space-Date: Tue Oct 29 20:39:42 1991 X-From-Space-Address: cbmvax!uunet!CUVMA.BITNET!LOJBAN la .and. rost. cusku di'e > Jim Carter wrote to me: > > On buffer phonemes, it was my understanding that schwa (Lojban y) was > > reserved specifically for this purpose. If Cowan said that any random > > vowel could be the buffer, I missed it; I agree with your position that > > a specific vowel has to be used. > > I sort of understood that Loglan uses schwa as buffer vowel & Lojban uses > any that isn't /i e a y o u/. Is Jim correct? Old Loglan position: /y/ was buffer. Current Institute Loglan position: there are two dialects, the "buffered" using /y/ as buffer and /iy/ as hyphen, and the "unbuffered", using no buffer and /y/ as hyphen. Lojban position: /y/ is hyphen, any short unused vowel such as [I] is buffer. -- cowan@snark.thyrsus.com ...!uunet!cbmvax!snark!cowan e'osai ko sarji la lojban