Return-Path: Message-Id: <9110241321.AA15886@relay1.UU.NET> Date: Thu Oct 24 16:24:59 1991 Reply-To: "61510::GILSON" Sender: Lojban list From: "61510::GILSON" Subject: Jim Carter's translation X-To: lojban To: John Cowan , Ken Taylor Status: RO X-From-Space-Date: Thu Oct 24 16:24:59 1991 X-From-Space-Address: cbmvax!uunet!cuvma.bitnet!LOJBAN (Sorry: I meant to edit Jim's letter and send the edited version, and because I forgot an "/edit" it went back out onto the net before I could edit it.) Jim Carter (jimc%MATH.UCLA.EDU@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU) writes: >"61510::GILSON" writes >> I want to say "I like to travel by train better than by bus or plane. >litru = "x1 travels via route x2 by transport modality x3". The >sticking point was that the route is considered an essential place of >litru-travel (or alternative choices of gismu); how to insure that a >different route is allowed for each mode? Quantification is done left >to right, so if the modes are in the form of a conjunction with .e, >subsequent instances of "da", and presumably also "zo'e", will have >referents selected independently in each expanded sentence, which is >what you want. The problem is that I was told that "zo'e" only implies that the route is unspecified, and I want to say that it is irrelevant. No usage with "zo'e" for the route says what I really want to. Bruce