Return-Path: Message-Id: <9110240901.AA11364@relay1.UU.NET> Date: Thu Oct 24 15:58:39 1991 Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: the enjoyment of travelling bau la lojban X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: John Cowan , Ken Taylor Status: RO X-From-Space-Date: Thu Oct 24 15:58:39 1991 X-From-Space-Address: cbmvax!uunet!cuvma.bitnet!LOJBAN Bruce and jimc were working on how to express the route place when it is obviously different by different transport modes. I won;t argue with Bruce as to whether route is important to the comparison in his attempted statement, but >I< for one would make my decision about preferred mode at least partially based on route, as well as where I'm going from/to. I would normally prefer plane travel to boat travel, but might prefer the latter if travelling 3 miles down the Potomac River, or if the former involved passing through a war zone, etc. What he seems to be comparing, is travelling in its general nature, where the route for each mode is 'appropriate' or 'typical'. This is not "zo'e", but the very similar "zu'i": the typical value filling in this place. I would probably use litru, because it connotes to me a DE-EMPHASIS on where you are going or coming from because it omits normal places that I associate with "going". jimc poses: >Another definition problem: I couldn't locate a decent translation of >"like" or "enjoy". zdile-amuse was the closest I could get. nelci, for the former, and a pair of related and well-accepted lujvo for the latter (among the oldest in Lojban): zanlifri and xaglifri lojbab