Return-Path: Message-Id: <9110102236.AA24412@relay1.UU.NET> Date: Thu Oct 10 22:06:28 1991 Reply-To: cbmvax!uunet!pucc.princeton.edu!jimc Sender: Lojban list From: cbmvax!uunet!pucc.princeton.edu!jimc Subject: Re: Lojban duplications X-To: lojban@cuvmb.columbia.edu To: John Cowan , Ken Taylor , List Reader In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 09 Oct 91 15:54:44 EDT." <9110092027.AA02136@julia.math.ucla.edu> Status: RO X-From-Space-Date: Thu Oct 10 22:06:28 1991 X-From-Space-Address: cbmvax!uunet!cuvma.bitnet!LOJBAN Is it our current doctrine that, for each predicate, besides the numbered places, the predicate relation includes every case whether or not specified by words? In other words, every bridi includes a (often unspecified, likely useless in practice, but doctrinally important) tense, speaker, listener, language of expression, cause (4 kinds), consequence (4 kinds), exemplar, etc. etc. ad infinitum? Note that fi'o can make a case out of every selbri in the language, so "ad infinitum" is to be taken literally. If not, just what is the status of the cases? In case anyone cares, I support this interpretation, and I believe that both JCB and Lojbab have made statements of this form though not so extreme. But I acknowledge that this doctrine has very heavy philosophical consequences, which I am not able to fathom. -- jimc