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Date: Tue Oct 22 15:00:38 1991
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Subject:      Welsh?
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To: John Cowan <cowan@SNARK.THYRSUS.COM>,
        Eric Raymond <eric@SNARK.THYRSUS.COM>,
        Eric Tiedemann <est@SNARK.THYRSUS.COM>
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And Rosta <ucleaar%UCL.AC.UK@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU> writes:

>(2) I can't quite fathom the selection criteria for cultural gismu. Most
of them seem to be places where the languages Lojban derived its gismu
>from are spoken. Is this right? What happens to the rest? I can't help
>feeling that there's a certain kudos to being a gismu rather than a
>le'avla! My first impulse on reading the gismu list was to speak up
>for:
>       camri   Welsh
>       madja   Hungarian
>       skera   Basque

Why "camri"? The Welsh "c" of "Cymru" is not a Lojban "c" (pronounced like
English "sh") bit a Lojban "k."