Return-Path: Message-Id: <9112070752.AA11621@relay1.UU.NET> Date: Sat Dec 7 07:28:46 1991 Reply-To: Ivan A Derzhanski Sender: Lojban list From: Ivan A Derzhanski Subject: place structure of lujvo To: John Cowan , Ken Taylor In-Reply-To: David Cortesi's message of Fri, 6 Dec 1991 14:32:03 PST <6962.9112062304@cogsci.ed.ac.uk Status: RO X-From-Space-Date: Sat Dec 7 07:28:46 1991 X-From-Space-Address: cbmvax!uunet!cuvma.bitnet!LOJBAN > From: David Cortesi > > There's a recognized phenomenon in early language acquisition > called "overgeneralizing," when a child first figures out a rule > and then overapplies it. <...> > > Sometimes I feel like that child w.r.t. Lojban. You shouldn't. There is no sich thing as overgeneralisation in Lojban. > Nick (in story): le maxri lei manti se sudri'a > > Me: I read this as "the wheat the ants dryly caused" Yes, this is a justified interpretation, but there are others. Recall that tanru are Lojban's only source of ambiguity. > Nick: The x1 of sudga becomes the x2 of sudri'a Yes, the "x1" of {sudga} is the "x2" of {rinka} and of {sudri'a}. > Me: You are saying that for gismu G and H, the argument pattern of a > lujvo GH is: h1 GH g1... ? No. The argument pattern of GH is "h1 GH h2 h3 h4 h5". It just happens that the "x2" of H is also "x1" of G. > Nick: Actually, I was going with h1 g1 g2 ... h2 ... Wrong. In this case, it is "h1 GH (h2=g1)". co'omi'e .iVAN.