Return-Path: Message-Id: <9112230418.AA19580@relay1.UU.NET> Date: Mon Dec 23 07:10:10 1991 Reply-To: cbmvax!uunet!pucc.princeton.edu!nsn Sender: Lojban list From: cbmvax!uunet!pucc.princeton.edu!nsn Subject: so'o te fanva befi la kolin. fain. X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu X-Cc: nsn@ee.mu.oz.au To: John Cowan , Ken Taylor Status: RO X-From-Space-Date: Mon Dec 23 07:10:10 1991 X-From-Space-Address: cbmvax!uunet!cuvma.bitnet!LOJBAN Nice translations, although some of your choices of wording bewildered me (like {krasi}). When linking two sentences by a BAI, you use {bo}, not {ku}: {.isemu'ibo}, not {.isemu'iku}, which means {semu'i zo'e} >1) Dialogue. I want a way to present a dialogue like this, with two (or >more) participants, without having to 'lu ... li'u' everything. Is there >a set of metalinguistic operators you can drop into a quoted text to >switch between speakers like that? You could use {mu'o} (or whatever the COI word for "over!" is. >2) Rhetorical. I wanted Richard to echo 'semu'ima' (why?), to express his >feelings on it, without actually asking the question {ma paunai} or {ma pause'i} are the clumsier ways of doing it; also {zo'e kaunai} >3) Topicalisation (This did not come up in the passages, but I thought >about it when composing them, and thinking about translating Japanese). Use of the prenex: terms (sumti), followed by {zo'u}, followed by the main sentence. Seen from time to time in LeChevalier's usage. > Eki wa iya desu ne > Station topic horrible is/are qu-tag > "The station is horrible, isn't it?" >(more literally, "As for the station, horrible, isn't it?") le denpyklo zo'u xlali xu Also BAI-word {ra'a} will do the trick. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Nick Nicholas, Melbourne Uni, Australia. nsn@{munagin.ee|mullauna.cs}.mu.oz.au "Despite millions of dollars of research, death continues to be this nation's number one killer" - Henry Gibson, Kentucky Fried Movie _______________________________________________________________________________