From cbmvax!uunet!CUVMA.BITNET!LOJBAN Fri Jan 24 20:36:07 1992 Return-Path: Received: by snark.thyrsus.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.21.1 #21.19) id ; Fri, 24 Jan 92 20:36 EST Received: by cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (5.57/UUCP-Project/Commodore 2/8/91) id AA00561; Fri, 24 Jan 92 20:32:12 EST Received: from cunixf.cc.columbia.edu by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA05071; Fri, 24 Jan 92 18:46:58 -0500 Received: from cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu by cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (5.59/FCB) id AA06831; Fri, 24 Jan 92 18:46:23 EST Message-Id: <9201242346.AA06831@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU (IBM VM SMTP R1.2.1) with BSMTP id 1632; Fri, 24 Jan 92 18:45:00 EST Received: by CUVMB (Mailer R2.07) id 9478; Fri, 24 Jan 92 18:44:36 EST Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1992 10:42:30 +1100 Reply-To: cbmvax!uunet!MULLIAN.EE.MU.OZ.AU!cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu!nsn Sender: Lojban list From: cbmvax!uunet!MULLIAN.EE.MU.OZ.AU!cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu!nsn Subject: Re: Numeral strings: we need your help! X-To: John Cowan X-Cc: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: John Cowan , Eric Raymond , Eric Tiedemann In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 24 Jan 92 12:41:14 EST." Status: RO I vote for your position on strings like repai. I vote that {zei} be deallocated, and the space given to one of the currently deallocated cmavo. In contrast to your position on {repai}, though, and after initial opposition, I do support the oddity {ropa}, and in general the concatenation of "adjective PA" and "digit PA", for pragmatic reasons, even though {rolopa} is the actual meaning (ropamei *is* handy; in fact, I came up with it independently; it's a bad thing to have a backlog, friend). Similarly for du'e, mo'a etc. As a whole Lojban's PA grammeme is an odd collection, with few analogies in the world's languages. Forms like {ropa} are *not* obvious, and require explanation in any presentation such as you're doing. Nick.