From cbmvax!uunet!cuvma.bitnet!LOJBAN Tue Jan 28 11:08:24 1992 Return-Path: Received: by snark.thyrsus.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.21.1 #21.19) id ; Tue, 28 Jan 92 11:08 EST Received: by cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (5.57/UUCP-Project/Commodore 2/8/91) id AA24827; Tue, 28 Jan 92 10:19:39 EST Received: from rutgers.edu by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA05065; Tue, 28 Jan 92 09:55:07 -0500 Received: from cbmvax.UUCP by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA06540; Tue, 28 Jan 92 09:08:33 EST Received: by cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (5.57/UUCP-Project/Commodore 2/8/91) id AA18455; Tue, 28 Jan 92 08:55:04 EST Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU (via uunet.UU.NET) by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA17794; Tue, 28 Jan 92 08:33:00 -0500 Message-Id: <9201281333.AA17794@relay1.UU.NET> Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU (IBM VM SMTP R1.2.1) with BSMTP id 6249; Tue, 28 Jan 92 08:31:27 EST Received: by CUVMB (Mailer R2.07) id 4424; Tue, 28 Jan 92 08:30:06 EST Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1992 05:06:53 -0500 Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: summary of a busy weekend - part 2 of 2 X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: John Cowan Status: RO gismu The following two gismu are proposed for addition to the baselined list, and will be adopted pending no objection: vukro vuk vu'o Ukrainian pertaining to the Ukrainian lang/cult/nation in x2 slovo lov Slavic pertaining to Slavic langs/cult/ethnos in x2 (lovle'u Cyrillic is a letter of Cyrillic alphabet symbolizing x2) These have been reviewed by Ivan, as our only active native Slavic Lojbanist. The breakup of the Soviet Union, has made Ukraine a large country with a Russian speaker base, one with a Slavic language of its own and a nationalistic interest in being clearly distinct from Russia and the ex-Soviet Union. (the definition of softo is being broadened to cover the old Russian empire and the new Commonwealth, but remains tied to keyword 'Soviet' because there really is no other distinct word.) Our standards for cultural gismu clearly put Ukraine in the group that should have a gismu. (The other republics, except Russia itself, will be covered with le'avla.) With two Slavic peoples represented, the family name also requires a gismu (as semto exists to cover Hebrew and Arabic commonalties). As shown, this gismu will also be used to generate "Cyrillic", a better choice than rusko or softo for that concept, anyway. keyword changes - the following are baseline changes unless there is objection - All metric prefixes currently have keywords of the form megdo 10E6 It has been pointed out that this does not conform to most exponential notations. The keywords will be globally changed to use "1" instead of "10" giving megdo 1E6 - budjo Buddhist pertains to the Buddhist cult/relig/nation in x2 - dadjo Taoist pertains to the Taoist cult/relig/nation in x2 - jegvo Jehovist pertains to cult/relig of the Judeo-Christian-Islamic deity in x2 - xriso Christian pertains to the Christian cult/relig/nation in x2 It was noted that The change in keyword of mukti to "motive", part of the last baseline change, did not get into the PLS file for some reason, along with appropriate definition wording changes. rafsi "du" will be added to the list as a result of being assigned the rafsi "dub" and "du'o" place structures I cannot list all of the place structure changes and definition changes being made for the new baselined list. About 20% of the words will have some change from the list posted to the PLS (We were BUSY!), although most of these are minor and clarificational. Some general notes: - Bob Chasell proposed a large set of synonyms be listed, and are being added to the definition field to make computer searches of the list easier. - A clarification of sets and masses and sequences and their roles as place holders in bridi caused many changes in wording. All places where these have been identified as likely placeholders have been examined and will be identified if space permits. - several 'properties' which are generally considered subjective, have gained a 'by standard' place - the standard may only be an observer, in which case it is the observer's personal standard, whatever that may be. Colors are not included in this change. - More care is being taken with 'under conditions' places. In many cases, an 'under conditions' place may be appropriate to some event/state within a single place of a bridi, rather than applying to the main bridi itself. - The use of "du'u" abstractions is clearly distinguished in place structures dealing with truths. Some places dealing with knowledge and truth have been cleft paralleling the djuno place structure change described in JL15. - All known cleft place structures have been reviewed, with more than half eliminated by putting an event clause in x1. A few, such as simlu, are remaining cleft, but are worded so as to suggest ka property abstractions instead of events in the cleft abstraction place. - The following are particularly significant changes in meaning balvi x1 is in the future of/later than/after x2 in time (ONLY; c.f. lidne) bilma x1 is military/regimented/strongly organized/prepared by system x2 for purpose x3 caxno (paralleling condi below) cfari x1 (st/ev/proc) commences/begins/initiates/starts (intransitive) [no change, but c.f. sisti) cimde x1 is a dimension of space/object x2 according to rules/model x3 clupa x1 is a loop/circuit in/of material x2 defined by (set of points) x3 cmavo x1 is a structure word having garmmar exemplified by word x2 with meaning function x3 in language x4 condi x1 is deep in extent in prp/qual x2 at locus x3 away from obs. pt x4 by std. x5 cpare x1 climbs/clambers/crawls/creeps on surface x2 in direction x3 using x4 (tools, limbs) danfu x1 is the answer/response to question x2 dargu x1 is a road with route x2 fancu x1 is a function/single-value mapping from domain x2 to range x3 defined by rules x4 fasnu x1 is an event that happens/occurs flalu x1 is a law specifying x2 (st./ev.) for community x3 (mass) under conditions x4 by law-giver x5 funca x1 (ev./st.) is determined by the luck/fortune of/for x2 gasnu x1 is agent in event x2; x1 'does' x2 gradu x1 (magnitude) is a unit/degree of/on scale/ref. std. x2 (idea/si'o) measuring x3 (property) gunma x1 is a mass/team/is together, of components x2 considered jointly jbini x1 is between/among set of boundaries x2 in prop/qual x3 jdika x1 is decreased/reduced in x2 (prop/quant) by amount x3 (no change c.f. zenba) kancu x1 counts the number in set x2 to be x3 (quant) in units x4 karli x1 is a collar surrounding x2 of material x3 krefu x1 is a recurrence/repetition of x2 (ev/st) for the x3th (quant) time x1 happens again kusru x1 (person) is cruel/mean to x2 lacpu x1 pulls/tugs/drags x2 by handle at locus x3 lafti x1 lifts/applies lift to x2 at locus x3 lidne x1 leads/precedes x2 in sequence x3 naxle (paralleling dargu above) pajni x1 judges/is a judge determining/deciding matter x2 (du'u/prop/amt) (estimate/evaluate) panra x1 is parallel to x2 in property/pattern x3 by std./geometry x4 pikti x1 is a ticket entitling x2 to privilege/entitlement x3 (ev./st.) under cond. x4 platu x1 plans/designs/plots plan/plot/arrangement x2 for state/process x3 porsi x1 (sequ) is sequenced/ordered by comparison/rules x2 on set (unordered) x3 prami (paralleling xebni below) prina x1 (agent) prints x2 on x3 using tool x4 purci (paralleling balvi above) ritli x1 is a rite/ceremony/ritual/is formal(legal) for purpose x2 under custom x3, under rules/form x4 selci x1 is a cell/atom/molecule/unit of x2; x1 is an indivisible basic subunit of x2 (c.f. English 'atom') simlu x1 appears to have property x2 to x3 under conditions x4 sirji x1 is straight/direct/line segment/interval between x2 and x3 sisti x1 (agent) ceases/stops/halts doing/being x2 without completing it (c.f. cfari WHICH IS DIFFERENT) skiji x1 is a ski/skid/skate/runner for surface x2 (for) supporting skier/skater/sled/cargo x3 suksa x1 (ev/st) is sudden/abrupt at stage/achievement x2 in process x3; x1 (prop) is discontinuous at point x2 over interval x3 talsa x1 (person) challenges x2 in prop x3 trene x1 is a train (segmented-vehicle) of cars/units (mass/sequ) in system/railroad/of owners x3 trina x1 attracts/lures x2 (person/action) with property/quality x3 venfu x1 (person(s)) takes revenge on/retaliates against x2 (person(s)) for wrong x3 (ev./st./act.) with vengeance x4 (ev/act) vorme x1 is a door/gate between x2 and x3 of/in/through structure x4 xamsi x1 is an ocean/sea/gulf/atmosphere of planet x2 of fluid x3 xanri x1 (concept) exists in the imagination of/is imagined by/is imaginary/unreal to x2 xebni x1 hates x2 (object/state)/property) xendo (paralleling kusru above) xlura x1 (agent) influences x2 into action/event/state x3 by influence/threat/lure x4 (c.f. trina) xrani x1 (event) injures/harms/damages victim x2 in property x3 resulting in injury x4 (state/prop) zarci x1 is a market/store/exchange/marketplace selling x2 operated by x3/ with participants x3 (mass agent) zenba x1 is increased/augmented in x2 (prop/quant) by amount x3 (parallels with jdika) zukte x1 is an 'entity' employing means x2 for/towards end/purpose/goal x3 More details will be found in the list, if and when I get it done. ---- lojbab = Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA 703-385-0273 lojbab@grebyn.com