From cbmvax!uunet!CUVMA.BITNET!LOJBAN Wed Jan 15 17:30:22 1992 Return-Path: Message-Id: <9201151356.AA10579@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1992 08:54:25 EST Reply-To: "Mark E. Shoulson" Sender: Lojban list From: "Mark E. Shoulson" Subject: More comments on old material X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: John Cowan , Eric Raymond , Eric Tiedemann In-Reply-To: CJ FINE's message of Mon, 13 Jan 1992 13:38:15 GMT Status: RO Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1992 13:38:15 GMT From: CJ FINE X-To: Bob Le Chevalier X-Cc: Lojban list 2. Intersections and goi. Your answer to Jack contains ".i .a'o ko'a goi ri .e ra li'o". Athelstan writes (p.14) "ko'a goi ge leko'u speni gi leko'u re citno bruna". These seem to entail that "ko'a du ri .ije ko'a du ra" or in the other case "ko'a du le speni po ko'u .ije ko'a du le citno bruna po ko'u". This is clearly false. I think that the problem here is that ".e" would be better replaced by "jo'u". What I wonder is, how many other places are we using ".e" inappropriately? Definitely. Using .e as above gives me entirely the wrong picture: ko'a goi la bil. .e la xaris. implies that ko'a is Bill and also Harry, and probably that Bill therefore is also Harry. The only thing I'd differ with you on is that to indicate that ko'a is the group of Bill and Harry, I'd use "joi", not "jo'u". After all, in this situation we *are* mixing them to form a team, a single unit comprised of the both of them, so "joi" makes more sense. ~mark