Return-Path: Received: by snark.thyrsus.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.21.1 #21.19) id ; Thu, 30 Jan 92 19:29 EST Received: by cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (5.57/UUCP-Project/Commodore 2/8/91) id AA17577; Thu, 30 Jan 92 19:14:21 EST Received: from cunixf.cc.columbia.edu by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA21708; Thu, 30 Jan 92 18:00:04 -0500 Received: from cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu by cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (5.59/FCB) id AA09830; Thu, 30 Jan 92 18:00:05 EST Message-Id: <9201302300.AA09830@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU (IBM VM SMTP R1.2.1) with BSMTP id 2251; Thu, 30 Jan 92 17:57:45 EST Received: by CUVMB (Mailer R2.07) id 2921; Thu, 30 Jan 92 17:57:30 EST Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1992 17:56:44 TZONE Reply-To: David Cortesi Sender: Lojban list Comments: Warning -- original Sender: tag was cortesi@CRICKHOLLOW.INFORMIX.COM From: David Cortesi Subject: re: Buffer vowel and "y" X-To: lojban mailing list To: John Cowan , Eric Raymond , Eric Tiedemann In-Reply-To: <9201302025.AA18917@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> Status: RO X-From-Space-Date: Thu Jan 30 19:30:02 1992 X-From-Space-Address: cbmvax!uunet!CUVMA.BITNET!LOJBAN On Thu, 30 Jan 1992 15:15:00 EST, 61510::GILSON wrote: > > Mark E. Shoulson writes: > > >I'd almost rather see > >keeping everything as it stands, but allowing (mandating?) schwa as buffer > >vowel and changing the pronunciation of "y" to "\"u" (u-umlaut). > > If it were _my_ language, I'd accept Mark's suggestion. In fact, u-umlaut > is the sound of y in Latin, Finnish, Swedish, and probably other languages > as well, so it isn't even a strange use of the letter; it's the sound that > the letter originally stood for in the Latin alphabet. For the sake of us linguistic weenies, could somebody cite some common English (or French maybe) words that demonstrate this sound? (It isn't French "deux" or German Goe"te is it?)