Return-Path: Received: by snark.thyrsus.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.21.1 #21.19) id ; Thu, 30 Jan 92 19:29 EST Received: by cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (5.57/UUCP-Project/Commodore 2/8/91) id AA17463; Thu, 30 Jan 92 19:13:44 EST Received: from rutgers.edu by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA19640; Thu, 30 Jan 92 17:54:09 -0500 Received: from cbmvax.UUCP by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA21675; Thu, 30 Jan 92 16:59:37 EST Received: by cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (5.57/UUCP-Project/Commodore 2/8/91) id AA05083; Thu, 30 Jan 92 16:35:19 EST Received: from cunixf.cc.columbia.edu by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA28651; Thu, 30 Jan 92 15:26:06 -0500 Received: from cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu by cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (5.59/FCB) id AA23802; Thu, 30 Jan 92 15:25:49 EST Message-Id: <9201302025.AA23802@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU (IBM VM SMTP R1.2.1) with BSMTP id 1876; Thu, 30 Jan 92 15:23:39 EST Received: by CUVMB (Mailer R2.07) id 1761; Thu, 30 Jan 92 15:23:25 EST Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1992 15:15:00 EST Reply-To: "61510::GILSON" Sender: Lojban list From: "61510::GILSON" Subject: Buffer vowel and "y" X-To: lojban To: John Cowan Status: RO X-From-Space-Date: Thu Jan 30 19:29:52 1992 X-From-Space-Address: cbmvax!uunet!cuvma.bitnet!LOJBAN Mark E. Shoulson writes: >I'd almost rather see >keeping everything as it stands, but allowing (mandating?) schwa as buffer >vowel and changing the pronunciation of "y" to "\"u" (u-umlaut). Yeah, >it's kind of Volap"ukian, but it's certainly recognizable as different from >everything else, feels like a good "hyphen" sound to me, and even makes >decent hesitation noise (try it!). If it were _my_ language, I'd accept Mark's suggestion. In fact, u-umlaut is the sound of y in Latin, Finnish, Swedish, and probably other languages as well, so it isn't even a strange use of the letter; it's the sound that the letter originally stood for in the Latin alphabet. But it isn't my decision to make, and I'll bet Lojbab won't take it.