Return-Path: Received: by snark.thyrsus.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.21.1 #21.19) id ; Tue, 28 Jan 92 15:50 EST Received: by cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (5.57/UUCP-Project/Commodore 2/8/91) id AA18764; Tue, 28 Jan 92 15:04:45 EST Received: from rutgers.edu by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA00203; Tue, 28 Jan 92 14:52:18 -0500 Received: from cbmvax.UUCP by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA06531; Tue, 28 Jan 92 14:16:09 EST Received: by cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (5.57/UUCP-Project/Commodore 2/8/91) id AA12886; Tue, 28 Jan 92 14:07:49 EST Received: from cunixf.cc.columbia.edu by relay2.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA12763; Tue, 28 Jan 92 14:01:24 -0500 Received: from cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu by cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (5.59/FCB) id AA30626; Tue, 28 Jan 92 13:58:25 EST Message-Id: <9201281858.AA30626@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU (IBM VM SMTP R1.2.1) with BSMTP id 6897; Tue, 28 Jan 92 13:56:23 EST Received: by CUVMB (Mailer R2.07) id 6280; Tue, 28 Jan 92 13:56:07 EST Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1992 13:56:20 EST Reply-To: "Mark E. Shoulson" Sender: Lojban list From: "Mark E. Shoulson" Subject: Counting and so on X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: John Cowan In-Reply-To: Chris Handley's message of Tue, 28 Jan 1992 09:19:01 GMT+1200 Status: RO X-From-Space-Date: Tue Jan 28 15:50:03 1992 X-From-Space-Address: cbmvax!uunet!cuvma.bitnet!LOJBAN Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1992 09:19:01 GMT+1200 From: Chris Handley Hi All [...stuff deleted...] Hence my vote is for some way of distinguishing the positions of digits in a string so that large numbers can be assimilated easily. This would also mean that I could distinguish between a string of digits and a number or break a 'nameber' up in different ways - there is a big difference between 'Pennsylvania 64 thousand' and Pennsylvania 64 oh oh oh for those of you that can remember that far back. Would you accept the current cmavo for the "numeric comma", {ki'o}? Used without sufficient digits following, it implies (by default) three zeroes, otherwise it's a way of breaking up larger numbers (some MEXican who knows better, please correct if I'm wrong). Thus, in "Pennsylvania Six, Five Thousand" (or Pennsylvania 6-5000) (the correct line, I think), the last part would simply be "muki'o". And a number like 186,283 could be "pabixaki'o rebici". In breaking up non-numeric numbers, like a phone number, people would likely use the complex base point, {pi'e}. So, the phone number for LLG (703-385-0273) would likely be given as "zenocipi'e cibimupi'e norezeci". 'Course, your audience would have to know not to try to type the {pi'e} on the phone dial, just as you have to know not to try to dial the dashes. In a pinch, you can always leave them out. This sound good to you? Does it conform to the Lojban Central conventions? ~mark (shoulson@ctr.columbia.edu)