Return-Path: Received: by snark.thyrsus.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.21.1 #21.19) id ; Wed, 29 Jan 92 10:26 EST Received: by cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (5.57/UUCP-Project/Commodore 2/8/91) id AA27941; Wed, 29 Jan 92 06:06:43 EST Received: from cunixf.cc.columbia.edu by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA07493; Wed, 29 Jan 92 02:56:32 -0500 Received: from cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu by cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (5.59/FCB) id AA00024; Wed, 29 Jan 92 02:55:11 EST Message-Id: <9201290755.AA00024@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU (IBM VM SMTP R1.2.1) with BSMTP id 8038; Wed, 29 Jan 92 02:52:05 EST Received: by CUVMB (Mailer R2.07) id 9872; Wed, 29 Jan 92 02:51:59 EST Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1992 11:01:59 GMT Reply-To: cbmvax!uunet!bradford.ac.uk!cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu!C.J.Fine Sender: Lojban list From: CJ FINE Subject: Re: Counting and so on X-To: chandley@otago.ac.nz X-Cc: Lojban list To: John Cowan , Eric Raymond , Eric Tiedemann In-Reply-To: ; from "Chris Handley" at Jan 28, 92 9:19 am Status: RO X-From-Space-Date: Wed Jan 29 10:26:36 1992 X-From-Space-Address: cbmvax!uunet!CUVMA.BITNET!LOJBAN Chris Handley: > . . . If one thinks > about it, we do not normally write long strings of digits, we break > them up. Telephone numvbers are divided into area code, exchange > code, and number; other numbers are divided by spaces or commas > depending on your background and I deplore the fact that most PLs do > not allow one to do the same - I certainly cannot easily comprehend > a string such as 18359807463 without some thought, and I am > convinced I could not do it on the fly in the middle of speech. > However the equivalent string 18,359,807,463 is a doddle. > > Hence my vote is for some way of distinguishing the positions of > digits in a string so that large numbers can be assimilated easily. > This would also mean that I could distinguish between a string of > digits and a number or break a 'nameber' up in different ways - > there is a big difference between 'Pennsylvania 64 thousand' and > Pennsylvania 64 oh oh oh for those of you that can remember that far > back. This is what "ki'o" is for (see the relevant chapter in the textbook) li pabiki'o cimusoki'o binozeki'o vomuci > > In addition I would like to support Ivan's position on complex > numbers, the construct {value kau value} is short and precise and > translates easily to any of the other ways of dealing with complex > numbers. I agree (as I've already said) Kolin c.j.fine@bradford.ac.uk