From cbmvax!uunet!CUVMA.BITNET!LOJBAN Thu Feb 13 18:02:44 1992 Return-Path: Received: by snark.thyrsus.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.21.1 #21.19) id ; Thu, 13 Feb 92 18:02 EST Received: by cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (5.57/UUCP-Project/Commodore 2/8/91) id AA21474; Thu, 13 Feb 92 18:00:05 EST Received: from cunixf.cc.columbia.edu by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA07148; Thu, 13 Feb 92 17:33:28 -0500 Received: from cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu by cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (5.59/FCB) id AA30233; Thu, 13 Feb 92 17:33:25 EST Message-Id: <9202132233.AA30233@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU (IBM VM SMTP R1.2.1) with BSMTP id 7668; Thu, 13 Feb 92 17:31:54 EST Received: by CUVMB (Mailer R2.07) id 4765; Thu, 13 Feb 92 17:31:04 EST Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1992 10:30:46 GMT+1200 Reply-To: cbmvax!uunet!otago.ac.nz!cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu!chandley Sender: Lojban list From: Chris Handley Subject: RE: "New York" X-To: LOJBAN%CUVMA.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu To: John Cowan , Eric Raymond , Eric Tiedemann Status: RO Jim writes > >I was annoyed back when China decided that English-speakers were >henceforth to write the name of their capital as Beijing instead of >Peking. I figured it was our (the anglophones') business what we >called stuff. For Lojban, Eo, and Voksigid --- I claim we can >translate to our hearts' content and make names conform to the >language. If even London can get transformed to Londres, why not >everything? > Nonsense! This is a carry over from the Imperial view that English speakers had of the world in the 19th Century - if someone does not understand, just talk louder. Germans do not know where Munich is, (Mu:nchen) nor do Italians recognise Leghorn (Livorno). Scots do not recognise Edinburgh (non-USAns must read this in USAn), USAns do not recognise Pittsbr@. It goes further - is my former country South Africa or Azania, is my present country New Zealand or Aotearoa? Chris Handley chandley@otago.ac.nz Dept of Computer Science Ph (+64) 3-479-8499 University of Otago Fax (+64) 3-479-8577 Dunedin, NZ