From cbmvax!uunet!CUVMA.BITNET!LOJBAN Tue Feb 4 19:24:37 1992 Return-Path: Received: by snark.thyrsus.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.21.1 #21.19) id ; Tue, 4 Feb 92 19:24 EST Received: by cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (5.57/UUCP-Project/Commodore 2/8/91) id AA28893; Tue, 4 Feb 92 16:00:52 EST Received: from cunixf.cc.columbia.edu by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA10498; Tue, 4 Feb 92 14:21:06 -0500 Received: from cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu by cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (5.59/FCB) id AA11760; Tue, 4 Feb 92 14:20:01 EST Message-Id: <9202041920.AA11760@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU (IBM VM SMTP R1.2.1) with BSMTP id 0199; Tue, 04 Feb 92 14:18:11 EST Received: by CUVMB (Mailer R2.07) id 7355; Tue, 04 Feb 92 14:17:25 EST Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1992 11:32:37 EST Reply-To: John Cowan Sender: Lojban list From: John Cowan Subject: Re: "mz"; buffer vowels X-To: Lojban List To: John Cowan , Eric Raymond , Eric Tiedemann In-Reply-To: <9202032353.AA19362@relay2.UU.NET>; from "Julian Pardoe" at Feb 3, 92 8:09 pm Status: RO la djulian. pardos. cusku di'e > What did little "mz" do to anybody to deserve this fate? (And how > come "ns" didn't do it too?) The belief is that "mz" and "nz" are too similar and easy to confuse, so no Lojban word can differ only on this point. > I'm a bit worried about how I'd cope with buffer vowels in practice. > (And like many English English speakers I'm not too good with "r"s so > I'm going to need one if I'm going to cope with words like {gugdrne- > tiopia} -- or is {gugdyrnetiopia} a valid realization?) No, it isn't. The answer to the "r" is "Trill it." -- cowan@snark.thyrsus.com ...!uunet!cbmvax!snark!cowan e'osai ko sarji la lojban