From cbmvax!uunet!CUVMA.BITNET!LOJBAN Sat Feb 8 06:04:46 1992 Return-Path: Received: by snark.thyrsus.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.21.1 #21.19) id ; Sat, 8 Feb 92 06:04 EST Received: by cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (5.57/UUCP-Project/Commodore 2/8/91) id AA01450; Sat, 8 Feb 92 04:18:52 EST Received: from cunixf.cc.columbia.edu by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA13248; Sat, 8 Feb 92 03:46:42 -0500 Received: from cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu by cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (5.59/FCB) id AA08574; Sat, 8 Feb 92 03:46:49 EST Message-Id: <9202080846.AA08574@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU (IBM VM SMTP R1.2.1) with BSMTP id 7303; Sat, 08 Feb 92 03:45:25 EST Received: by CUVMB (Mailer R2.07) id 8875; Sat, 08 Feb 92 03:45:07 EST Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1992 08:42:11 GMT Reply-To: Ivan A Derzhanski Sender: Lojban list From: Ivan A Derzhanski Subject: Slavic vowels/ response to Ivan To: John Cowan , Eric Raymond , Eric Tiedemann In-Reply-To: Logical Language Group's message of Fri, 7 Feb 1992 17:50:27 -0500 <3887.9202080322@cogsci.ed.ac.uk Status: RO The "backward N" has the same quality as the vowel in "bean", but it is short. (Lojban {i}, that is.) The "bI" thing is halfway between Lojban {i} and Lojban {y}. The [I] sound (the vowel in "bin") doesn't occur in any Slavic language, but would be interpreted as an allophone of [i] (Lojban {i} again). Ivan