From cbmvax!uunet!CUVMA.BITNET!LOJBAN Sun Feb 9 07:15:46 1992 Return-Path: Received: by snark.thyrsus.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.21.1 #21.19) id ; Sun, 9 Feb 92 07:15 EST Received: by cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (5.57/UUCP-Project/Commodore 2/8/91) id AA18224; Sun, 9 Feb 92 06:58:42 EST Received: from cunixf.cc.columbia.edu by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA03104; Sun, 9 Feb 92 06:42:58 -0500 Received: from cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu by cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (5.59/FCB) id AA20687; Sun, 9 Feb 92 06:43:02 EST Message-Id: <9202091143.AA20687@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU (IBM VM SMTP R1.2.1) with BSMTP id 8074; Sun, 09 Feb 92 06:41:42 EST Received: by CUVMB (Mailer R2.07) id 1284; Sun, 09 Feb 92 06:41:16 EST Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1992 11:19:38 GMT Reply-To: Ivan A Derzhanski Sender: Lojban list From: Ivan A Derzhanski Subject: Slavic vowels/ response to Ivan X-To: lojbab@GREBYN.com X-Cc: lojban@CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.edu To: John Cowan , Eric Raymond , Eric Tiedemann In-Reply-To: lojbab@COM.GREBYN's message of Sat, 8 Feb 92 06:50:08 -0500 <9202081150.AA28560@daily.grebyn.com> Status: RO Yes, barred "i" is the usual IPA character for the "bI thing". I would have to consult a phonology book for the proper terminology, but I think it is a high unrounded central vowel. I took your /I/ for an ASCII approximation to a small capital "I", which in IPA means a lax high unrounded front vowel (as in "bit"), distinguished in English from the tense high unrounded front vowel /i/ (which is always long, as in "beat"). I suppose barred "i" is a good choice. Just make it very brief. Ivan