From cbmvax!uunet!cuvma.bitnet!LOJBAN Tue Feb 11 08:49:21 1992 Return-Path: Received: by snark.thyrsus.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.21.1 #21.19) id ; Tue, 11 Feb 92 08:49 EST Received: by cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (5.57/UUCP-Project/Commodore 2/8/91) id AA23502; Tue, 11 Feb 92 07:58:09 EST Received: from rutgers.edu by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA04402; Tue, 11 Feb 92 07:45:49 -0500 Received: from cbmvax.UUCP by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA01034; Tue, 11 Feb 92 07:10:25 EST Received: by cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (5.57/UUCP-Project/Commodore 2/8/91) id AA17439; Tue, 11 Feb 92 06:13:01 EST Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU (via uunet.UU.NET) by relay2.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA12702; Tue, 11 Feb 92 05:09:03 -0500 Message-Id: <9202111009.AA12702@relay2.UU.NET> Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU (IBM VM SMTP R1.2.1) with BSMTP id 1143; Tue, 11 Feb 92 05:07:53 EST Received: by CUVMB (Mailer R2.07) id 1845; Tue, 11 Feb 92 05:06:39 EST Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1992 09:31:59 GMT Reply-To: CJ FINE Sender: Lojban list From: CJ FINE Subject: separating brivla X-To: cortesi@INFORMIX.com X-Cc: Lojban list To: John Cowan In-Reply-To: ; from "David Cortesi" at Feb 6, 92 12:18 pm Status: RO Dave: > > > la jan. coun. pu spuda mi lu > la deiv. kortesis. cusku di'e > to'i sectuca sa'a toi > li'u > .i mi ckire do zu'o do ciksi le piro rafsi zo du > .i ra'unai mi bacru le mi secmene ta'i lu la deiv. korteizis. li'u I'm not at all happy about you running the SE onto the front of the BRIVLA. The one place where the spoken/written isomorphism of lojban is a little strained is in identifying brivla - the criteria for distinguishing them in speech and writing, while (I believe) demonstrably isomorphic, are different - stress vs. word-breaks. Thus "sectuca" and "secmene" are confusing. Of course you can use the rafsi instead of the cmavo: "selctuca" and "selcmene" (I haven't checked that those CCC's are allowed, but they seem OK to me). kolin c.j.fine@bradford.ac.uk