From cbmvax!uunet!CUVMA.BITNET!LOJBAN Tue Feb 11 10:10:24 1992 Return-Path: Received: by snark.thyrsus.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.21.1 #21.19) id ; Tue, 11 Feb 92 10:10 EST Received: by cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (5.57/UUCP-Project/Commodore 2/8/91) id AA02062; Tue, 11 Feb 92 09:48:23 EST Received: from cunixf.cc.columbia.edu by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA27951; Tue, 11 Feb 92 09:38:48 -0500 Received: from cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu by cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (5.59/FCB) id AA31414; Tue, 11 Feb 92 09:38:52 EST Message-Id: <9202111438.AA31414@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU (IBM VM SMTP R1.2.1) with BSMTP id 1546; Tue, 11 Feb 92 09:37:10 EST Received: by CUVMB (Mailer R2.07) id 3412; Tue, 11 Feb 92 09:36:35 EST Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1992 09:37:00 EST Reply-To: "61510::GILSON" Sender: Lojban list From: "61510::GILSON" Subject: word spacing in Lojban X-To: lojban To: John Cowan , Eric Raymond , Eric Tiedemann Status: RO CJ FINE writes: >Dave: >> >> >> la jan. coun. pu spuda mi lu >> la deiv. kortesis. cusku di'e >> to'i sectuca sa'a toi >> li'u >> .i mi ckire do zu'o do ciksi le piro rafsi zo du >> .i ra'unai mi bacru le mi secmene ta'i lu la deiv. korteizis. li'u >I'm not at all happy about you running the SE onto the front of the >BRIVLA. The one place where the spoken/written isomorphism of lojban is >a little strained is in identifying brivla - the criteria for >distinguishing them in speech and writing, while (I believe) >demonstrably isomorphic, are different - stress vs. word-breaks. Thus >"sectuca" and "secmene" are confusing. Of course you can use the rafsi >instead of the cmavo: "selctuca" and "selcmene" (I haven't checked that >those CCC's are allowed, but they seem OK to me). It is my understanding that word spacing in Lojban is nowhere significant. Therefore, while Colin (and most people, including me) may find "se cmene" easier to understand than "secmene" etc., what Dave did is not incorrect Lojban. Bruce